Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers)
I was wondering this morning, exactly how many of these Posts there are, here at the Doctrine blog. So digging into the dashboard, it would appear that I have written 845 Posts. Well, lets say, 845 ‘things’, as some of them are barely 200 words, not necessarily stun bombs of literacy, and some (of them) rather engaging. But, seeing how I was rummaging around in the ‘dashboard’ I figured it couldn’t hurt to try to present something of an overview today…
According to my sources and the record here, the Wakefield Doctrine now is built upon an astounding 845 Posts! These Posts are both brief little stories (“very, clever and insightful” according to Readers) and at the same time I have written Posts that manage to be both engaging and entertaining, while still presenting the core principles. I am really amazed at how much people like this blog, even people who write blogs that have nothing to do with personality theory, them liking the Wakefield Doctrine so much is even more impressive. Guess I should try to write more often. Like today…
What the fuck! Pardon my French, but do you have any idea how many of these things there are now?? Do you? No, really, take a guess. Come on…. I mean it. What, are you insane?!? 500 hundred? no frickin way! 845 of these little darlings! Thats right! Yeah fun, you’re damn straight, their fun!! Wanna know a little secret? Just today…
Alright, now that I have that out of my system.
…the Wakefield Doctrine at this moment in time:
- More people reading the Doctrine these days have the core ideas down, than ever before, i.e. ‘personality type is simply a label for the set of coping strategies that are appropriate to (one of) three worldviews. And, (most Readers), know the characteristics of these three worldviews well enough to make a self-identification.
- the use of the Wakefield Doctrine as a tool to gain greater insight into new situations is definitely on the rise, if Reader Comments are any indication
- the use of video chats (Video Brunch, in the relentlessly cute parlance of the Doctrine) and look forward to more opportunities to have realtime conversations with Friends of the Doctrine and DownSprings and them
- starting on the project to create a language that has touch points in all three worldviews…totally useful in understanding ‘the other two’
- (back to the business of vid chats…using google+ hangouts) 5 minutes of conversation is the equivalent of 5 hours of reading my amusing but (at times) somewhat roundabout explanations in Posts like this one, ya know?
So ask me a question, tell me something I don’t know…share you feelings on the matter.
About clarkscottroger
In alignment with the clark personality type, I finally revealed to my brother in law that he’s a scott. He immediately crossed his arms and said, “NO! I wanna be an artist, creative thinker type!” And he huffed off. HAHAHA…such a scott. Later on he confirmed that he knows he’s a scott. LOLOL
As for me, I wish I could decide between two things: pursue a PhD in Spanish (two professors have approached me on this) or finish my master’s, get on with teaching and do art on the side (and maybe some blogging). I can’t decide. Such is the fate of a clark. Dammit. LOLOL
@Cyndi
“I can’t decide. Such is the fate of a clark.” True, but such an opportunity to understand this here Doctrine here even betterer!!
lets see what insights we can gain from you conundrum we will all benefit from the exercise.
First question: do you want to ‘move this to the Post (up there) or continue in the Comments section.
I want to know how that there clark above me managed to get ‘in with the rogers’
And whether or not a careful and machiavellian application of flattery to the more ‘needy’ roger would engender a more meaningful (or any) relationship…*
(*half as an academic exercise, half because it’d be nice not to be ignored all the time)
@Considerer
Valid question… but lets see if we can’t combine the discussion in such a way that we can force the inquiry (that is generated by Cyndi‘s proposed question*) to produce an insight that will illuminate the path of your question, Considerer. (This is not just a set up for a humorous take on ‘those clarks’, in all seriousness, our goal should be learning the ways of applying the Doctrine’s principles, not just looking for the answer)
*well, in all fairness, I kinda created a question…one that I am sure Cyndi would have asked**
** lol
@ Cyndi – it is a clark’s inclination to consider a much wider picture (than most) when faced with decisions. I’ll skip over the obvious answer(s) why? LOL
I’m taking some “lessons” from a roger of late (he doesn’t know he is “teaching” me lol). The lesson is to look directly at the issue/situation at hand and, (this part is me) if it falls on an appropriate priority scale (always those damn caveats!) focus on that one main thing pretty much to the exclusion of anything else. Until it’s complete.
In other words, do you not first have to obtain the master’s before you can pursue the phd?
What a clark I am!! Where the hell’s a scott when you need them!
….Joe Strummer talked about indecision….
Comments are ALWAYS FUN! LOL
For Considerer: wait…you sayin’ I got in with the rogers? Okay, so maybe I did – you saw us having a cerveza, didn’t you? ;) Well…I can “turn on my roger” in some circumstances. It entirely depends on how much I like my company, LOL. Since I’d spent three weeks studying and enduring tough courses with those people, who were incredible thinkers, it was fun to take it outside the classroom. Most of them are still rogers, though. There were a couple clarks in the midst. I think it’s a foreign language thing or something.
As for clarks making decisions: I think we eventually do make them, but in the context of where we feel we’ll have the most benefit AND where we can make a difference. Last week, I was leaning toward finishing a PhD – I’d get to spend a bunch of time in Spain to do it.
But then there’s the “do I want to spend the next four to five years of my life with my nose stuck in a book?” question. I like working in my community and having a creative outlet – those are two requirements for me.
I probably won’t do it (or maybe that’s a disguised challenge to myself in that statement there) – I have visions of doing mayan hieroglyphic art next…
@Cyndi
ok then we’ll discuss this thing here in Commentville. Hold on… damn these real world jobs… be right back
(while I’m away, consider: everything we do (in this discussion is a clark’s version of the scottian and rogerian worldview…I need to remind myself of that at all times. It is still an effort of value to analyze and dramatize but the reason we want to remind ourselfs of this is not that it is not an accurate representations, but more with an eye (for all of us) to look for correlations between our views and the views of the other two.
or something like that I’ll be right back…)
@ Considerer – thank you for asking that question!
Being ignored, better yet, begrudgingly acknowledged by a roger, is quite irritating. But only if you let it get to you.
@Cyndi – I’m sayin’ you got in there and set up camp :) And I want to learn how
@Girlie – I’m not letting it get to me per-se (though it is bemusing) but I am more interested in what I could do to (as Cyndi alludes) ‘get my roger on’ and use the current state of ‘ignoring’ as a challenge for my personal development in this area.
I’ve a feeling I need to meet (the one) where they’re at, invest in what they’re invested in, and massage their ego a little…(I may be way off base – stop me if I’m about to do something really dumb)
@Condsiderer
in my experience if you want to be included with rogers, you need to feel like a roger… otherwise there will be a brief flash of (very comfortable) combat boot that shows under your fashionable long dress or a brief glimpse of blue hair color and they will identify you as the blue monkey.
As to how a clark goes about feeling like a roger…therein lies the reason we are all gathered here.
I have become increasingly adept…(for me it entails finding the thing in common and liking it in a way different from how we (clarks) will like a thing).
Damnit.
Back into the classroom with me then.
“Sir, sir, but *how* do we ‘like it differently’?”
@Considerer
lol we try different things and compare notes.
(seeing how Cyndi is alluding to one group of rogers and you are alluding to a different group of rogers and the fact that they might be reading this, lets stay generic with the discussion, so not feelings get bruised among the four legged set) lol
My own experience has been in the workplace. Plenty of rogers. The qualities of their type: sociable and friendly, good in conversations, in the know about gossip and who is doing what to who else, in other words they will be at the social center of the local environment.
IF anyone feels they would have trouble identifying the roger in the room, raise your ‘hand’.
Fine, thats just the description of the (resulting) personality. The person who grows up and develops and learns about life from the perspective of the herd, thats who we are talking about.
Let’s focus on how they see the world around them. If can appreciate that then we will be in a better position of knowing how to ‘pass’ as a roger.
Two words: the herd. Everything to a roger is about feelings and relationships. And while they are geniuses at feelings and emotions and living in a quantifiable world with rules and such, they are also adept at detecting impostors… outsiders….clarks.
Here’s my contribution for now: clarks think, scotts act and rogers feel. if you want to look like a roger you need to feel like a roger
@ Considerer …one of the keys, one of the concepts in trying to achieve status as “one of them” (scott or roger) as Clark has alluded is to “feel” like (fill in the blank). It’s about developing/enjoying the appetite for the desired manifested worldview.
A challenge to describe here in a comment but I’ll try. And I will use one of those backwards type of examples that clarks will recognize, sort of the process of elimination thing. Sort of.
Ex. A clark, wanting to get in on the rogerian thing:
– with practice you will know when you have succeeded, been accepted when, in the middle of a conversation/ situation your clarklike brain alarms go off because your stomach just flipped over. My own experience: as a grocery store cashier I meet lots of people. Some become very familiar, I see them every week, sometimes every day. I’m friendly with a woman a bit older than myself. One day off, I found myself bumping into her in the meat dept. (of the store where I work). She, a roger, pretty much took care of the conversation. I joined in quite enthusiastically. And genuinely (been practicing how to be social lol). I know about certain aspects of her life, have commiserated etc. She has shared with me.
Here’s how I know I was in full rogerian regalia: at the end of the conversation she said to me: “you and your husband will have to come over for dinner”. Me inside my head: “WHAT?! HOLY SHIT! NO! I DON’T WANT TO! WHY WOULD I WANT TO?!”
It’s how I knew =D
Sometimes you can tell right away – clark, scott or roger. Sometimes I find it difficult to tell the strong rogers from the scotts and weak scotts from the rogers. This one is different…..
2 days ago was “one of those days”. As I mentioned previously, I’m presently working as a cashier at a grocery store. I’m professional and friendly at all times. I know where on the “dial” to be with various folks. It was noontime. Had a particularly trying day since I walked through the door.
Scene: 2 women in line. 1st was very difficult but not intentionally. I kept it together but inside I was screaming. She leaves. I turn to the next woman in line (tall, dressed in business suit, well coiffed) and smiling ask how she is today. When she asks me how I was, I replied w/variation on the usual. Toldl her I was very good, great etc thank you. Her response:
That’s not what your teeth are saying. LOLOL
Just what I needed! I immediately relaxed and we exchanged observations on our days to up to that point.
Question: was she a scott or a clark?
My first inclination was scott but then I decided no, she was a clark. clarks would know these things instinctively. One indicator? clarks would make a statement (such as that) out of the realm of ordinary conversation.
Question: did she make that statement for having “recognized” me as a clark?
What say anyone?
Congrats on the 845+ and counting of posts! Holy crapola that’s a ton, and I thought my 100 was impressive! I’ll actually be doing a “number” post about some analytics via Google and see if anyone knows much about wtf they mean and how they work :-)
It’s great you’ve been having so much fun at this, and your readership/followers have expanded.
As for video chat, that’s still a “sore” spot that I’m not sure I’ve yet come to mend/heal* and I really like comments. Then you are more accountable too (well… except the ability to erase them I suppose…) for what you say without the “he said” “she said” shenanigans.
*No I’ve not been traumatized by suddenly seeing an elderly man sticking his penis in a cantaloupe suddenly pop up on video during a video chat (though, I’ve heard it happens), but more of a social anxiety/anonymity reasoning
Jak at The Cryton Chronicles & Dreams in the Shade of Ink