Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine ( the theory of clarks, scott and rogers )
Have we established Sunday Morning Posts as ‘casually organized, rambling yet interesting…sort of like the way the Sunday Newspapers1 used to be, yet?
Well today we will use two ‘devices’ that serve as a warning to our newer Readers that, when it comes to learning about the Wakefield Doctrine, there might be other places in the blog that will better serve as a starting point.
… talked to the Progenitor scott last night! Discussed a wide range of topics:
- his finding a reference to ‘the Lady’2 on the internet, very interesting news indeed
- talked about the state of country music, including Vince Gill, Brad Paisley and others and the fact that scott was in a new band
- discussed how the recording of the Lady really, really should be made into a musical
- discussed the idea of the problems that one would encounter if one went back in time and co-inhabited the body of your 20 year old self ( both personalities are able to communicate)
…good Saturday Night Drive! in the dashboard; Molly and DS#1 and (riding shotgun) Ms. AKH
- discussed adding a Sunday morning brunch show ( Wakefield Doctrine Sunday Morning Drive?) Molly has familial responsibilities, ‘KH and DS are flexible we decided that maybe we will try it on a limited basis, mostly to see if this will make the call-in Post more accessible to the Friends of the Doctrine who are in Europe (their clocks run fast or something, as it is like 3am for Nell Rose and (probably) 4am for Claire and Alexandra, when we do our regular Saturday Night Drive.
- speaking of Claire, we talked about a number of the points she has been raising in Comments (at the Doctrine) and in Posts at her blog very interesting and challenging questions from our Ms. Peek.
- Molly started a rather spirited exchange on the topic of changing dominant personality types, specifically what happens if a person sets out to change from being, say predominately a clark to predominately a roger? …stay tuned.
- DS#1 was barely restrainable towards the end (of the drive) and the group of men that she and her S.O. were identifying with were in conflict with a group of men that was in opposition to her group of men…she was positively ‘atwitter’
…the most significant concern raised last evening was this: People read the Wakefield Doctrine blog and ‘get it’. They have no trouble with the descriptions of the three personality types and quite often can immediately identify within themselves, their ‘type’ (clark or scott or roger). However it seems there is a tendency to forget the ‘underlying and totally essential concept’, which is, of course that we exist in slightly different personal realities.
One of the elements that distinguishes the Wakefield Doctrine from other popular personality systems is how we deal with the question of: which comes first, behavior or personality type? Most will say, ‘describe yourself, your likes and dislike, your interests and your antipathies, then consult the chart you will know your ‘personality type’.
The Wakefield Doctrine is different. The key premise to the Doctrine is that we all live our lives in a personal (slightly) separate reality. Nothing weird or metaphysical or religious, we still all know that the sky is blue and fish swim in the sea and if your erection last more than 4 hours…. whatever.
The point here is that I am a clark because the world that I exist in is that of a clark. My behavior is a totally appropriate response to the world as I experience it. And a scott is acting naturally because the character of their reality is based on ‘the world of predator and prey and rogers live happy, content lives because that is the nature of their reality.
The Wakefield Doctrine does not define personality by description of repeated behaviors. The Wakefield Doctrine looks at repeated behavior and infers the reality that the person is experiencing. Big difference. Big advantage. Know the nature, the character of the reality that a person exists in and you will know what they will do before they will.
There is much more to this thing, the effect of the ‘other two’ realities on a person, but that is for another Post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFj9ylA043A
1) newspapers as in the smeary newsprint that comes off on your hands, difficult to fold properly but totally superior to the “digital” format
2) “the Lady” a long but very interesting story…we will share it at the First Annual Wakefield Doctrine Global Pic-a-Nic to be held as soon as we can afford it!
About clarkscottroger
Good Morning Clark!
I see that I had not correctly formulated my “wonderings” on the previous post… I had a feeling… especially after I read your response, but hey nobody’s perfect and I sure am glad I am not…
“Know the world as it is experienced/perceived and you know the kind of personality your dealing with”
For me, the questions are therefore these:
How and why a person comes to perceive the world a certain way?
How and what makes a person settle for that kind of perception so early in life?
What is it that influence a person to do that?
Are we born with predominant personality type?
What influences the perception a person has?
Am I redundant? I do apologize if I am… but, I really needed to tune my questions/wonderings :)
One of the reasons why I like the doctrine so much is that the behaviour type is a direct response to how one perceives the world… perception being the key… this is no science but only human senses based. Or ?
Okay… gotta go deal with a naughty Mr Squirrel now,
Talk soon, always fun to chat
/Claire
Claire
(I was ‘re’ and ‘tre’ reading your Comment, trying to come up with a more confident-sounding, if not more elegant answer than…. “we don’t know yet!” )
I almost failed.
And as with most ‘almost answers’ the key to max utility is to allow for a variable in understanding, knowing that nothing is (yet) ‘carved in stone’. So for the moment:’
For me, the questions are therefore these:
How and why a person comes to perceive the world a certain way? …we don’t currently know the answer
How and what makes a person settle for that kind of perception so early in life? …no, nothing yet…
What is it that influence a person to do that? …getting a little….nope! still got nothin!
Are we born with predominant personality type?… Hey! I got one! No (sort of…) no, I stick with ‘No‘
Well, we are glad we could clear these issues up for you! lol
(As I am sure all the Readers have learned by now, it is the habit around here to try and stick any little pearls of wisdom at the end of the Comment, not sure why that is, maybe a desire to throw the scotts and the clarks ‘off the scent’…then again, it is probably something as simple as, after the reading of, and formulating at and type, type, typing a Reply, something does occur to us, in regard to the Questioner’s Question.)
I read your question and what comes to mind is: the question is being asked by a clark. What does that tell us? We live in a reality in which, along with the ‘laws’ of gravity and the certainty that we will be able to create when it is time to create, is the Drive, the Need to know Why?
..it is what we do, it is who we are.
However, (not yet) having an Answer represents a huge opportunity for you Claire!
In fact, I will go so far as to say that I envy you in your position at this juncture.
As a clark, the question is being framed as: determine the beginning of the process and the rest of the process becomes evident and therefore (more) predictable. Further more, establish the dynamic of the start of the process and you will understand the workings of the process better and be more likely to ‘tinker with it’ to change the results (of the process).
…sorry, does not work that why.
(At this moment I am totally feeling the limitations of this medium, not to say the inadequacy of my writification skills. Hey, if I can figure out how to do it, would you be up for ‘talking to us’ on a video Friday? No need to decide right now, but give it some thought. If you are comfortable, we would call you… more later, probably by email.)
The follow-up Answer to justify all this: you are a clark. your world includes the ‘reasonable necessity’ to understand ‘the Why’.
You also have rogerian and a scottian aspect. Neither of them care about ‘The Why’
Consider how the situation that caused your clarklike aspect to stop at ‘WHY’ looks in the world of your rogerian aspect as well as your scottian aspect.
This is not to say there is anything wrong with the clarklike approach to understanding, it is what we are, however to begin to get a sense of what the Wakefield Doctrine offers in terms of self-development, get used to saying, “OK clark, I know that ‘the Why’ is all you know you need to be sure and solve this problem, keep up the good work. While you do that, I’m just gonna take a peak ( ha, ha ), at what it is my rogerian feels about this question and maybe see how my scottian side would re-act to it.”
Sorry for running on, but you are at a valuable and critical point in the development of the Wakefield Doctrine as a tool for self-improvement and self-development. We are totally taking notes, lol Keep it up, yo.
And you know there is no ‘losing’ in this process, everything you do here, even it only seems to affect your clarklike aspect, comprises an ‘adding to‘ not a ‘taking away‘.
You know what they say, ’round the Doctrine, “Y’all cain’t step in the same river twice”
Yo Clark!
You really need to get to understand MY reason for looking to the question WHY… I don’t care that it will explain more about the beginning of the process and stuff like that… I don’t mind that there are no answers yet, but I do HOPE that all together we could find at least a couple of beginning of answers for each question… for the FUN of it mostly and to enrich any kind of discussions we may have in the future.
I am very curious that is why (no pun intended, or maybe a little) I am asking questions and I become very proud of my fingers when I manage to formulate them the right way so I am not misunderstood… but okay, I will take note of my own questions and try to come up with suggestions…
All that… yeah still the clark talking… well sue me! (preferably not) I have not got the time to have a discussion with my roger so, I’ll get back to you… we’ll see how much I can learn…
Video Friday… I’ll think about it, I promise ^_^ thanks again for the invite.
Okay, gotta go… for now!
lol
damn! I am so old and slow…I just finished the editing of my Reply and looked up and noticed you have already responded! frickin time-clogged synapses!
but me get smarter…I am now replying to your reply here in the Comment section! hah! as soon as I finish and hit Approve and Reply…and check for spellings…and Hey! where did she go??!
yes altogether we will have the fun of the discovering the answer to these Questions… but the asking of the question always shapes the answer.
we are, in fact having fun… this is an adventure tailored to each of us! Knowing that (that this is a perfectly customizable section of our individual lives) is pretty cool.
I will say this, we are collectively writing a timeline for ourselves (as a group) and as long as we each are comfortable with that, how much better than anything on TV can this be?
(btw I am aware of the question, ‘yeah but who is in charge of plot and character development around here?’* Stay tuned!)
*there is a form of an answer, but I have to get a Post up today more to follow.