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It is not necessary to understand this…M. Eckhardt

The topic of today’s Post is: Discourse and Discussion  (quick definition so we will not get any shit from people saying that this blog is amateur scholastecism),
discourse: from the Latin discursus; the act of running about. Sociologists and philosophers tend to use the term discourse to describe the conversations and the meaning behind them by a group of people who hold certain ideas in common

Alright lets start there people, the sooner we get through the “serious” part of the Post, the sooner we can get to the music videos. This the Wakefield Doctrine Lesson of the Day. The question before us is:

What is the goal, the perceive object of the act of conversation/discourse for clarks, for scotts and for rogers? (and as a follow-up question), What does the Doctrine offer to aid the person trying to effectively communicate with a person of the other type (clark, scott or roger)?

First up, clarks. clarks value knowledge information above all, therefore they will attempt to bring as much fact, knowledge, information, inference and implication as possible to the discourse (see?). You will know a clark by the fractured sentence structure. Their goal is to offer (the listener) the maximum choice in paths to take, because (to a clark), everything branches off everything else and each branch offers some information that is discrete from other (branches). That accounts for the (heavy) use (as opposed to light use) of parenthesis. It is a clarks way of saying “hey! by the way, had you considered this…?
Sample: “what is it that real people do with all the time in between sentences?”

Second up, scotts. scotts need to know: are you predator or prey; are you dominant or submissive. For that we require a verb.
Sample: “Hey!” secondary example: “pretty simple, isn’t it?”

Last, rogers. rogers are not using words to communicate or carry specific questions, rogers use words to exist. They live in a purely social world, one comprised of people, however these people, all being rogers do not interact. Instead the rogerian members of the herd are relating to each other…and s0 the only thing to talk about is the past. The past of each of the other members of a herd is the topic of all rogerian discourse. That is why rogers tend to be good at writing, they are laying out a world, not imparting information. It is a fabric of emotion.
Sample: “did you hear what she said about him…?”

Now you know how each of the three converse/communicate/engage in discourse/run about. What good it this information? Glad I asked. So you can understand the other person, knuckleheads! There is this old saying, “clarks are crazy, scotts are stupid and rogers are dumb”
Why is it necessary to mention this?
Because the best tools in the world are useless without the skill of the person using (them).  And skill in the use of tools involves understanding the material/the object that the tools are being used on as much as (understanding) the tools themselves.
You know that clarks are trying to impart too much information, so take what you need and ignore the rest.
The scott is barking aggressively at you, so decide if it is in your interest to be prey or predator/submissive or dominant and bark back  or roll over.
The roger is spreading information throught your workplace about you, and you do not want that. Take a clue from terminex and contribute information into the network of your own, it will work its way into the social matrix and maybe surplant the bad information.

That concludes the Lesson of the Day. Now to the entertainment portion of the Post. We have a mix, two music video and one movie clip for the scott, the roger and the clark. (In that order, in case, you are a new Reader)

(Now roger)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ_UuPH3cyw

(Before you ask, I’m sure there is a perfectly good reason to have a double-neck guitar consisting of a bass and a telecaster looking guitar…)
(Actually the simple fact that it was the 1970s should suffice to account for it…)

oh clark! you will enjoy this (and the rogers and the scotts will totally flee the room, lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTLiPbtnhvU

Hey! Got a minute?
(Tell me you have ever heard that expression used as a preface to an enjoyable conversation?)
Its just that the ‘quality of writing’  of Comments, given how long we have been at this, really sucks.
And it is not as a rhetoretician do I say this thing. I will be the first to say that, if I was taking a writing course, I would consider myself lucky to get a C- (and that only on the basis of the sheer volume of the stuff I put out there).

HAving said that, if I were a new Reader I would be looking for that little fucked up “F” icon that facebook totally plasters over everything they piss on. 
(Seeing that in print, I realize that I might not be giving the rogers who inhabit Facebook (and the scotts there to prey on them) enough credit).
Its just that after nearly 12 months of practice,  the Comments submitted still sound like a bunch of grade school kids left alone in the auditorium with the PA system on…HEY!!! HEYY!! Listen To me….NO!! dont listen to HER!! Listen to ME…Ca Ca!!

Cut it out.
Evolve yourselfs. If this ends up being a vanity published blog of an over-ego endowed clark, then so be it.
But if you want to see your thoughts in print in front of 50 regular Readers, then you are going to have to do better…

…oh yeah…tomorrow is Phuck you Pfriday

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of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy

Hey, yo clarks…it’s Saturday and the other two have the weekend starting.  They both know this is a time when they are entitled and (in the case of rogers) required to relax and have fun and engage in all things not of the work week.  You, (being a clark) know nothing of this…this is a day as are all other days.  Sure, you may aspire to having the feeling of enjoying some  ‘time off’,  relief from the weeks organised work, hell you may even have a situation in which you have weekends off, but you and I both know that it is not the same (as it is with those other two, scott and roger).

So, am glad you are still reading.  I hope you can continue to ‘set aside momentarily’ your inclination to dismiss this blog as something that you have already got covered in your own system of understanding (the world) and see if you cannot benefit from this Wakefield Doctrine thing.  And it is to the clarks that I speak today…”no, scott, no special music videos and nothing of a sexy exotic nature”…just clarks stopping for a moment to see if we can’t maybe help each other out a bit. (As to our rogerianReaders), they are totally into ‘hey! it’s my weekend can’t you see how much I have earned the right to be even more self-absorbed than I am during the rest of the week”? lol Yeah.

OK.  Post for and to the clarks.  Hey! come back I have just started!

I could cut and paste stuff from the clarks page, about how we live in our heads, and think a lot and do not show emotion but we are past that at this point. There simply is not a roger or a scott still reading this…so it is us here.  I know that you know that I know…etc…blah…etc.  Fine we have established our credentials, identified ourselves it is up to me to offer something that you have not yet thought of, or have not been willing to think too loudly, much less try and discuss it with one of the others.
Fine.  I am willing to play.  Here’s the thing…we can accept our low self concept/esteem, in fact it is a point of pride with us…sort of like the person who has overcome a handicap…we own it and accept it and there is hardly anyone in the world that is qualified to discuss this topic (with us).
Sure.
Understood.
I get the knowing/thinking thing.  And I am sure there are clarks who are better than I am at thinking/analyzing even better at describing and expressing what it is to be inside the head of (and therefore to live in the world of) a clark.

Difference is I have experienced the alteration of my clarklike nature. (Sorry no insult intended but for dramatic purposes I have to do the following, even though I know that you know).  Notice and re-read what I just said…I have experienced…alteration…clarklike nature…I did not say:
“I have learned to…” or “I think differently”…I have not even said anything about “discovering something new, a key to understanding…”

I have experienced an alteration in my clarklike nature.  Am still a clark( lol ya think? ) but have something in addition to…

So, welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers)…I think we better go find those other two…roger is probably swelling up in emotional intensity…sort of getting wider and lower to the ground with the severity of their sincere and heartfelt nature…and the scotts  lol god knows what they are up to!..I don’t hear any cries of torment, maybe they have found something old and worn to gnaw on…they are such simple creatures… but fun…

So come back when you are ready to Comment…we will be here…I think…ya never know…lol

fuck that greaser 50s rock and roll or country music that scotts so love that they turn into little pre-teen girls at the thought of, bless their simple scottian hearts…and roger’s idea of music…I’m sorry I do not believe that I am quite qualified, in an acedemistical sort of way to criticise the music that most rogers will beat people over the head with, for their obvious lack of qualifications to enjoy…

(oh before we go…) you know that just because we are self-conscious and mumble and all that sort of thing does not mean that we are not to found in the spotlight…I offer as a closing example a clark we can all be proud of…

 

Hold on…just discussing Doctrine matters with DownSpring#1…and she made a statement about my doing something better than someone else which resulted in my success at “being taken under their wing”…
…now you’re clark…you like the sound of that…”under their wing”…tell me I’m lying.  DS#1 insisted that the choice of words was ‘accidental’ that she did not mean it that way…

If you want to ever have the slightest hope of doing that which you have been trying to do your entire damn lives, you must be prepared to accept the fact that it is always your choice…and it is not the words that matter, it is the fact that the words we choose are the instructions we give to the world out there…instructions as to how we are to be regarded…as clarks
But you are still reading because a) you remember that all people have the potential to be any of the three, a clark, a scott or a roger and b) this potential does not ‘go away’ or wear off it is always possible to add the qualities to what we are and finally c) clarks are the only one of the three that think that improving themselves is not only a good idea, it is a necessary idea…because of d) the central idea of a clark is way beyond the scope of this particular Post…but you have earned another video!!

…good clarkie… you made it this far! …take a penny, please

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7RCQhuRdhw
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and I ain’t done nothing since I woke up today

 

  (roger…roger…roger…)

When I got up this morning, my first thought was, as always, what am I going to write about for the day’s Post?  And it seemed that the answer was, “hey since writing yesterday’s (“…the best to you each morning”) let’s talk about the benefit of ‘lightning up”.  This would have recounted the struggle of recent days to come up with anything but how yesterday, after writing and publishing the Post, I went back in and added some fun, recollectational stuff. (The thing about eating Grape Nuts in a college dorm.) And it did seem like the way I was going to go today.  But then I went in search of a subtitle….and that took me to Lyle (actually John Prine) and then the photos (above and on the home page) and that took me to rogers.  So, I guess I do not have an easy to write morning….

Screw it, let’s stay a little human today.  Hey, when you look back at your very early life, what do you recall being the first exhibition of being the type you are (clark, scott or roger)? I distinctly recall being 4 or 5 and being ‘tickled into submission’, you know the way that kids do that?  Get an initial reaction and then follow through until you are sitting on top of your laughing so hard you victim and despite being begged to stop you continue the ticklation. I recall that after one of these “attacks” I decided that I would not be ticklish anymore.  That simple.  And I proceeded to do…something….not quite clear on the process, other than I seem to recall that it did not happen overnight, but eventually (and to this day) I was no longer ticklish. (Here is the clarklike part, I knew that what I was doing was something that “nobody can do that”.  And in the process of becoming ‘non-ticklish’, others would comment along the same lines,  “you can’t do that, no one can make themselves not be ticklish”.) Guess that is my first memory that I can see shows me as a clark.  I suspect that this suggestion will have validity only to clarks, but I could be wrong.  In fact, I suspect that I am wrong because as I have stated before, you Readers are not normal.  By definition, you have an ability to see yourselves from a different perspective than does the general population.  And this will be part of the challenge in bringing the Wakefield Doctrine to the world.  Most people cannot, deliberately step back and see themselves.  They think that the world they see and hear and react to is the same for everyone.
But… “you and I have been through that, and this not our fate” (to channel Bob a little).

Am resisting writing about rogers, as the two photos that showed up today (“accidentally iconic images, reporting for duty today, sir!) are clearly of rogersbtw, add actress Kathy Bates to your list of rogerian women.  So I will go for the short Post and get right to the Wakefield Doctrine Lesson of the Day.  And the lesson is not really a lesson, it is an observation.  About the perspective of age. I have long spoken about how we all “lock into’ a certain age and stay there despite the steady advance of time. It is different for each of us and effectively it is the age of the person you expect to see when you walk down the street and see your reflection in a storefront window. (I have come across a blog, where the writer has come up with a description of this phenomenon way totally better than I have. He say, “What would you say your age is, if you forgot how old you were?” Damn. Says it perfectly).
Anyway, we all do that. Lock into a certain age, no matter how old we get. There is a long, metaphysical explanation (“hey Luuucyy, you got some splainnn“) that has to do with the idea that we all have a description inside ourselves of what the world should be, how life is supposed to turn out. It is not entirely conscious, and it is not entirely positive. But it is the sum of what we have been taught that life is all about. As in,  “clark, when you grow up you will….” When we reach a point when all that follows is in our lives, we can then stop getting older, the wait is over. That is the age you lock in at.

So the Wakefield Doctrine lesson of the day comes from DownSpring#1 who asks in a Comment on the previous Post, (if I may paraphrase)…” it is a given that rogers live in a self-centered universe. Self-centered in the pure sense of the word, all things come back to the roger…all things (of value) issue from the roger.” (DS#1 goes on to ask)…”does the roger even know that this is an artificial arrangement or is it beyond comprehension (that the universe does not revolve around them?)”

I will offer my input and then open the floor to Comments. From phyllis (a roger) comes the explanation that,  “rogers exist in a box that they have created and then manage to forget that they are the creator…it is a box so that it must by definition be the whole universe, but it is limited for the same reason. For the sake of ‘completeness’.”

Eee doggies! Uncle Jed! That done loaded down the truck what making it scrape right on the ground!”

(Oh Meester Hanitor!!! we shore would be appreciatin some fine music, rat about now, dontcha know?)

(warning bootleg vid, have to listen to the scotts in the audience scream along…)

Hey…lets go with another Emmylou…

OK…Contest time….we know what John is (roger) and Lyle is (clark) so what the heck is Emmylou?  (Hint: the Progenitor roger used to totally love her…)

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what is it? Timmy has fallen into a well? take us to him, boy

 

Hello.  Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers).  This blog is about presenting and discussing, discovering and applying the principles that comprise this little “theory” of personality.  Based only, totally and entirely on anecdotal evidence and (constant) observation, the Wakefield Doctrine is proving itself to be a unique and fun and (actually) quite effective way to view the behavior of the other people in our lives.  With the perspective provided by the Doctrine, why the people act the way that they do finally begins to make sense.  What a relief!  It isn’t that you were not capable of understanding them, it was never your lack of intelligence in being able to apply “proven” theories of personality and most of all, it has not been your fault for how your loved ones have acted towards to you.

You just needed the perspective of the Wakefield Doctrine.  You just needed to know that personality is not hard-wired into people, causing them to act certain ways.  You just needed to see that everyone experiences the world in one of three, slightly different ways.  You only needed to be able to understand and see the world from the bias/premise/reality of the other person and how they acted made perfect sense.

With the Wakefield Doctrine you can: recognise the three types of people; by recognising them you can appreciate the world that they are experiencing and not be caught off-guard or otherwise be surprised by their behavior.

Hey, it’s got it all.

But first we should address one of our DownSprings concerns that appears in the Comment to the last Post.
glenn writes: A)  Who the fuck is Speedy West? (Should I apologize for “crudeness”?) and he goes on to write:
                           B)   Studley still in the house. Cheerio Stud fella. Please verify this for me–you being British and all. The origin of the word soccer….The word is derived from the British penchant for shortening longer words and re-arranging them. There used to be a Football Association–or something like that–in Merry Olde. The brits took the 2nd syllable of the word association and stretched it to form the word soccer. You Brits are always fucking around like that. One of the things I like about you Limey bastards. So, tell me Studley…Is it true? Talk to me Studley. The doctrine cries out for international input. Say something here. Are you guys still mad about The War of 1812?

As primary author and moderator of this here blog here (and with thanks to the author of the Screenplay of Pulp Fiction), “Allow me to retort”

glenn is a scott, hence the penchant for “shocking” language.  If I had the time, we could go on for pages about why that is and what he gets from saying ‘fuck’ a lot, but I want to save that for a time when I am even more bereft of ideas than I am at this moment*.  The shortest explanation is provided by the tee shirt that will soon be available here at the Doctrine Fashion Center, it will say: “scott!!!: I scream, therefore I am“. (Damn, how totally true is this Doctrine !) That should clear up Point A, now for Point 2
glenn appears to be trying to draw out and engage one of the Readers of the Doctrine. (As can be seen on the home page, there is a ‘widget’ that indicates the geographical location of visitors to the Doctrine). Studley, United Kingdom is a regular Reader of the Wakefield Doctrine, we know that much but nothing else.  As a scott, glenn is offering the appearance of knowing about the background of Studley, UK as part of his effort to draw them into a conversation.  He (glenn) has done a little  research into the etymology of the word soccer in the hopes of convincing ‘Studley’ that his intentions are totally benign, but he is, of course, a scott.  Benign is not the correct word.  It is not that scotts are in any ways negative, bad, whatever, it is simply that they are acquisitory.

(We interrupt this exposition to bring you the mandatory Lesson in the Wakefield Doctrine found in every Post.  We’ll make it short).  scotts: live in a reality of predator/prey.  They are always and constantly testing their environments for threats and for a food supply.  In social terms, they are very gregarious and they are very aggressive, they will approach everyone they encounter with the sole/initial purpose of establishing dominance/submission.  At a party, the scottian male is the center of attention and will have an endless supply of jokes to tell (each joke told to a group is increasingly offensive, the better to maintain dominance).  The scottian female, is also very aggressive, consistent with cultural norms, (sort of).  She will be followed by, surrounded by rogers. rogers loves they scottian females and will do anything for them.

(OK, done.  Back to our little glenn).  So glenn is trying to draw out Studly, UK but to no avail.  We have nothing back from them and that is just fine with the author.  The rate of Comments from a given number of Readers is very low across the board.  We have patience.
Anyway, have you ever played with a puppy?  You make the hand-gestures, like a small animal approaching and retreating.  The dog loves that!  They will advance and retreat themselves playing a hunting game (in this case with your hand), however if you make too sudden a motion, they will begin to bark, no longer so sure that this is a game with a lesser animal.  Back and forth, predator and prey.  If you do not get the point by now, then maybe the Crocheting with Emily blog would be a bit more appropriate.

So.  That should serve for today’s Post.
I want to thank Studley, United Kingdom and DownSpring glenn for providing us with a topic, a subject, a premise, whatever the hell you call it when you write about something as a starting point to go into another subject.

Oh yeah, Speedy West.  (You know I get kind of pissed off at times…well a lot of times….now that I think of it…all the time when I read something that forces me to see the shortcomings of my own type.  And, given my own type, what forces me to see is not what I am, but what others are not.  My type always looks to others for the good things and as an example of what we are not, but the thing about glenn…a scott and scotts are fairly intelligent…and has an interest in music and does not know who Speedy West is…and he should, but (here is where my type gets mad at our selves) he doesn’t and apparently sees no need to find out what he doesn’t know…he is quite comfortable not knowing…because he is a scott…and my type is not.  So since this Doctrine is also about learning to be “better” people, I must learn from this and set an example to all Readers…so I do take the lesson from glenn and so my penultimate response to his Comment is:

Fuck you…

And since I enjoyed that so much here’s another one (without the live video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M_XES449-M



 

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keep on pushin, straight ahead

So we succeeded with yesterday’s Post in writing in a tone that only scotts could read it…

what is written in these Posts must be lost on the other two.  Today we are writing to one of the three  today, and tho’ there is no need to say which of the three ( clark or scott or roger ), there is only one target.

A “24” themed Post? What are you talking about??!

(6:03 am) wtf!  cut it out!  you got to think this out!!…

(6:04 am) ok not stop it…sure a cool idea, write a Post in real time with the clock ‘ticking’ like in the show “24” ( …hey I don’t believe you have ever watched the show!… ) cut it out! if we are going to try this we don’t have time for asides done by virtual high school students (…virtually brilliant… ) yeah I know.

(6:07 am) god…this sucks. A good idea, I admit but why waste it with a “I thought of it and therefore I have to do it now…” jeez how about a little preparation, hey for that matter how about a little respect for a good idea, (…lol how about a little speed-typing lesson…lol) no? alright lets do a set-up, thats allowable, isn’t it?

(6:09 am) OK heres the deal today…Post written in real time…one hour (…counting the time for the coffee…and does that include spellcheck…?)

(6:10am) I was going to write about yesterdays Post. In fact you will see a clip of it at the top which is referencing the idea that I was writing to one of the the three (clarks, scotts or rogers) and the measure of the ‘sucess’ of the Post would be measured by “who” wrote a Comment.   Well, I would like to say that we have a winner

(6:13 am) hey, thats not too bad, the time thing is slowing down, I surely can finish this and get my spellcheck done and find photo….(shit, I forgot the find a photo, damn)…don’t get nervous…back to exposition for now…

(6:15 am) The Winner:  scotts….no, actually the winner is your damn writer…lol there..if you had any problem that (yes, I know you get it, clark but for the other two you gots to spell it out) the Post (yesterday) was written to appeal to the scottian Reader…this mistaken reference to the scott the center of attention, as opposed to the fact that the credit and therefore attention should be on the clark who actually wrote the fuckin thing…

(6:17 am) ( ok you need to start worrying about time…you can’t go past the 3/4 mark writing ’cause you so have to edit this thing.)  (damn what happened to Janie? I thought she was going to carry the “aside” portion of the this Post.)  And you having never seen the stupid show, you had to go and try to latch onto another “clever” hook, meanwhile you are running out of parentheses…

(6:20 am) And so while we should be spending today’s Post analyzing why yesterdays’ Post was so scottian, instead we will be trying to finish this weird-ass “24” tribute thing. Thanks glenn and Ms. AKH for your Comments ( AKH’s actually came in the Sunday Post, but I know it was prompted by the (scottian) Monday)….stop! what are you doing rambling on about yesterdays’ (…I’m back…there was an episode of the Simpsons where Homer was in a steak eating contest with some other character…before the contest starts…Homer sits at the table…really nervous and starts eating the bread at the table (Marge to seal the joke says, “stop filling up on bread”….see I can tell a joke”)

(6:25 am) Damn. Better go get some photos…and have not even thought about music…(Mr. B!!! I need you to go and get something with a “time going by too fast” theme from our youtube “partners”…and Janie…photos…think photos…I want everyone back here by 6:44 to wrap this thing up!!)

(6:38 am) damn!!! time to edit and pull this thing together!!! Mr. B?? you all set?  What do you mean, “Trust Me”,? thats kind of what got you into the minor supporting role you find yourself in, isn’t it? Fuck, there are those who would maintain that it should be the theory of clarks, scotts and barrys, (…not very catchy! lol I have the still photos!!…) Alright  lets just focus on hitting ‘Publish’ at 6:59 am, ‘people’! (…hey!! what do ‘you’  mean…’people’…)

(6:41 am) And in conclusion, we thank our scottian Readers for reacting so clearly and un-equivcalbly (…lol…the spellcheck will cost you more time than the word is worth…) for demonstrating that it is within the body of knowledge presently contained in the Wakefield Doctrine to “craft the message” to one or more of the three types, deliberately…

(6:44 am)…time to wrap this up people…!

(6:47 am) where are those ‘stills’?

(6:55 am) OK  everyone! last look and last type…thanks for your co operation in pulling off yet another tfw Post…Hey Slovenianss your Romanian brothers is in da house!!

(6:59 am) in 5…4…3… … …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnuYhFRYbAw
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