Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers)
Now I know we all ( from their commentation, Cynthia and zoe and Val ) agree that, if there were one day (of the workweek) that is most conducive to sitting back for a minute and ‘talking shop’, it surely has to be Thursdays! (….Lisa you will agree with us?…. there are a number of us, perhaps enough to constitute, dare I say it… a herd?) So, lets do this thing. (And just to show you that I can get causal…. casual! casual! I’ll bring on the comic sans! nothing says, ‘we’re just having a conversation among friends as ‘the comic sans’, right?)
there! First shop topic! hey rogers (and anyone with a strong secondary rogerian aspect), a question! Do the Readers here at the Wakefield Doctrine possess sufficient intra-allegiance to comprise, constitute or, otherwise be a Herd? My thought is ‘no’, at least in terms of how I might conceive of a Herd1…. anyone else?
second shop topic: the role of (a) blog in real life. I’m considering the A to Z Challenge. Looks like fun. But the aspect that everyone seem to mention, the ‘omg! a Post every day except Sunday’… that’s not exciting me. However, the ‘join in with others, be a real blogger, just like your vfriends are doing… it’ll help you bond with them and such2‘ holds some attraction for me. I’m still trying to make up my mind. That being said, I’m looking for words to associate with the letters of the alphabet, because, in all due modesty, it’s not a question whether I can write a Post everyday, it’s really a question of which word (for the letter of the day) would I use to best illustrate my theme (the Wakefield Doctrine)?
shop topic three: z has what she thinks is the answer to the question posed yesterday, i.e. Taylor Swift’s predominant worldview. She (zoe not Taylor) is, undoubtedly correct, such is her understanding of our little personality theory, however, assuming that there might be Readers reluctant to state their call (for her worldview)…. allow me to re-emphasize how we look at this very common, fun and educational exercise (figuring out a person’s worldview). The answer (which worldview) is not so important, why you pick the one that you did is. I’m totally serious about this… I want to hear the reasons, the evidence that supports your choice, because this whole damn thing is about perspectives and perceptions…
The recommended approach is to narrow it down to 2 worldviews, (find the ‘no frickin way’ worldview and eliminate that one), our Ms Swift is tough, not just because she’s a performer. I ended up eliminating ‘scott‘ because, even though her eyes are striking there is no hunger in them…. (see ‘the eyes of a scott’ in the section on scotts)… so that left clark and roger…. clothes are a bit funky (a clarklike female trait)… but I don’t see the ….slump to the posture….the fashion choices are kinda well, fashionable, so that does not speak to a clark…. I’m gonna go with roger… only because there is something calculated in how she appears to be relating herself to the world around her…. So, that’s my reasoning
Out of time…. one last topic: vidchat anyone? Friday sometime from 7:00 pm EDT on…
1) further explication of my answer and my Answer: as a clark, a ‘Herd of clarks‘ is not a possibility, but, as Clark, I can see rogers (and scotts) gather here at and constitute a group-of-coinciding-interests, and thats almost a Herd, right?
2) god! if I had a dollar for every time that thought possessed my mind during my youth… and you know, I’m not, in fact, saying that it is a false or bad thing for a clark to think… the danger lies in expectations…. for a clark, expectations are a drug…the bad kind, addictive kind, with a decreasing payoff and an increasing cost hey! topic for the A to Z yes?? for the Letter E I’d like Expectations, Pat!
About clarkscottroger
That photo, Clark. Your irreverence is showing again. I love me my comic sans. The favorite font of preschool teachers, right Dyanne? Not a herd – a group of unlike minded individuals sparring and sharing. I think you should do the A-Z challenge. (Misery loves company). Just find a concept for each letter of the alphabet (a is for avarice) and write a little scenario describing it in terms of each world view. It would be quite educational. Just a thought. As far as Ms. Swift is concerned, a roger, heh?
Oh, yeah and FRIST.
…Fa….rist!
Why thank you!*
… I gather that themes are valid and so the Wakefield Doctrine is surely my theme-of-choice, your suggestion of a word and express it from (each) of the three worldviews is a good thought… (I was thinking along similar lines… though more from a general perspective of the Doctrine… like minds and all).
The real struggle for me is: which word? how to find a word, I mean there must be hundreds of words just for the letter ‘A’ (lol… yeah I am)…. have you come across any word generator apps out there? (Please enter First Letter of word and pull the lever)
…tough one for a call… gonna go with roger, unless, of course, someone has something (a view, an insight a perspective) that I haven’t noticed…. like I said, this is the fun part of the Doctrine.
*that irreverence is showing, (there is a part of me that seeks the path that I believe (mostly incorrectly) is most likely to garner approval and while not
I did same thing with the analysis of Ms. Swift. I was close to clark until I saw another vid. Then her fashion sold her out. But the first vid she had a pretty stiff postural presentation which i thought was a kind of clark discomfort. …after the second and third vid I realized it was more of a rogerian confidence. Does that make sense?
yeah, exactly (clarks will either be self-consciously stiff or slumped-relaxed*)
*odd reference, but the OJ hearings, he had an attorney who was either way back in the chair or resting his head on his arm, throughout which ever hearing (not the trail… but maybe the preliminary hearing…that was back when I actually paid attention to current events. I do not do that anymore. lol
I love vals idea… there is a great list of words that come up when you google “personality traits alphabetized”
http://www.quotev.com/story/4332334/List-of-Personality-Traits/1/
hey! what the hell! I check twice in the Rs and only once in the S’sesese… nothing for rogerian (roe-jeer-reean) or scottian (sco-shun) lol I be writing until next Tuesday!
No x either! You can do xanthipian.
Yes, agreed on the Thursday thing.
Swift is in no way a Clark. She’s too into the herd. Yes, the fashion choices, but for me it was more about her (at least in my opinion) inability to be truly outside of anything. She’s mainstream all the way. Herd. Rule follower.
Back to shop topic one. NO, Not a herd. Too many varied and truly outside the box mindsets for that to be possible. And, because Clarks.
Shop topic two. A to Z is not for me – at least not now. I briefly considered it because the Roger in me felt that it would be appropriate to do the thing and the camaraderie of commiseration seemed attractive. But my crack team of advisers has, well, advised, that planning for next year’s A to Z would be a wiser move than jumping in the pool with everyone right now. And so I’ve decided to make A to Z a mid-term goal and plan to be part of it for 2016. I will be happy enough to cheer on those who decide to do it this year.
Tell me what to do to get on the vidchat tomorrow night!
Lisa
(in reverse order)… a couple of approaches: if you are a friend on ‘the Facebook’ (clark scottroger) which I assume, I will look for you and send you the link… I all also post the link in FB and, hell, might as well stick in whatever is the Post tomorrow…
…which will, in part, discuss the A to Z which in discussion with Denise and others is seeming more like a good idea, but one of the things that I would like to resolve is whether there is a way to pre-pick the words (corresponding with the Alphabet, of course). I will be using the theme (which I understand to be quite valid and allowable) of a certain personality theory (the name rhymes with Wakefield Doctrine)… but, the selection of only one word sounds daunting… and, in the conversation with Denise, the suggestion was made to try and select words that when the month is over, might be a A-to-Z Wakefield Doctrine…. thingie…) I don’t want to use ‘the B word’ zoe has been after me to do this thing for quite some time… so don’t tell her! so, any thoughts as to selecting words will be appreciated.
yeah a Herd is a concept, not just a group of lifeforms…. (hey! are you aware of some of the more esoteric discoveries of the rogerian worldview? …actually as I type this I can only recall one (but it’s a very significant insight) ‘referential authority’
…I’ll try to find the vid of an interview where she talks about making a ‘mistake’ or something on stage, but everything about how she relates it speaks to a ‘calculation’ that is not clarklike or scottian
Yeah but she hasn’t said anything about it in a long time cuz…
lol (to both comments, for similar but different reasons)
In my mind tonight, I imagine the people who hang here at the Doctrine, hanging out in a Covent Garden type of bar. ….all the myriad minds…a herd? No. No herd. A group, a collection.
I find the machinations (if that’s the right word) of the rogerian herd utterly fascinating. I’m impressed by the “continuity” of behavior exhibited by rogers in a herd situation.
There are characteristic, inherent, mutually understood “rules” about a(the) herd that rogers instinctively react to on an organic level that belies all logic to this clarklike female LOL
As to Taylor.I agree she’s a roger. And I agree about the eyes. Not of a scott, nor a clark. Her show in the clip was meticulously choreographed, as I imagine all her vids to be. She presents herself as somewhat of a perfectionist. Hard to explain. Everything well done.
She’s an attractive young lady who dresses well, is fashionable. There’s nothing in the way Taylor Swift dresses that would point to her as a clarklike female.
I know! How is she relating herself to the world?! With self assured confidence. But there’s a scottian kind of energy that’s missing (in the vid). Typically, you don’t have to fear anything crazy or outlandish from a roger:)
at that is (a part) of the power (and the charm) of our scottian brethren …. the threat of undefined response!
too well pre-defined…. she looks out over a world that is quantifiable and predicable rogerian fer sure…
Comic sans? HA! I used to like it until kindergarten teachers everywhere adopted it as THEIR font. LOL
now this is the second time I’ve been called a 1st grader…. lol I beginning to suspect a pattern is developing.