‘If you want to know about the bishop and the actress…’ the Wakefield Doctrine ( don’t you just *love* the use of semi-obscure song lyrics in the Title?)

Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers)

…short Post. Great Drive. working on brevity1 here ya go,  the Wakefield Doctrine Saturday Night Drive last night was:

  • attended by Denise and Molly
  • discussion of ‘Secret Project’ Project
  • discussed two areas of particular focus:  fluency and application
That last bullet? Expect to hear a lot more about those two concepts in the weeks ahead. Quick explication on fluency and application and then on to a Joe Jackson song (If you do not know the name Joe Jackson, you owe it to yourself to locate and listen to his first album, ‘Look Sharp’. Granted many of you might not have quite been born at the time this album was released, but the thing about his music was that he anticipated a lot of the styles that would make a come-back in the late 90’s early 2s)

Anyway…. here are two concepts that got brought into sharper focus, thanks to Molly* and Denise and ( in a sense during last week’s Drive) Cyndi:

fluency: the concept that, if you understand the characteristics of the worldviews of all three, then, when you find yourself trying to communicate with someone of a different worldview, you will be able to shape your message more effectively, which then increases the chances that they will get what you are trying to tell them. We are using the term ‘fluency’ in the linguistic sense. Learn a language (understanding the worldview) and eventually you will be in-distinguishable from ‘the natives’.

Example: you are a clark trying to talk to a scott.  (Lets set up a comparison situation in which), you are trying to tell the scott that he/she has a tarantula crawling up their back.
As a clark you might say : “ mumble mumble…excuse me I hate to bother you but I think I would like to bring to your attention that there is some sort of  spider-like bug on your shoulder, now if you like (spider-like) bugs this might not be important (to you), and, if that’s the case, let me apologise but I care, in my own weird manner about your well-being and so I will venture and try to communicate”
Or, being fluent in the scottian worldview you might opt to say  “Hey! What the fuck is that!?!

See the difference?
Now you try one!

You are a clark trying to tell a roger that their harsh, overly personal and entirely un-justified criticism of you is not a welcome addition to your day.
If you are not fluent in the rogerian you might say: .……….. (aka saying nothing. Thats the best we can come up with to imply that it will take you about 3 times too long to even notice you have been criticized, and then add another 2 minutes-to -2 years to get past the “gee, what did I do to deserve that?” reaction)
Or you might choose to say in response:

(Hey!  Free Wakefield Doctrine DocTee to the Comment that best completes the above Fluency Test!!)

Word Count creeping up! Remind me to explain the second concept later!

* not appropriate here, but I don’t want to forget something that Molly contributed last night. we were talking about being clarks, specifically very young clarks and Molly came up with ‘2 going on 20’ to describe herself as a tiny young clark. excellent!



1)  the word count for most Posts in the last 3 or 4 months is edging over 1000, on average!  Not that there is not a lot to talk about, and I am so not ready to try and imitate OFOD (Original Friend of the Doctrine) Mel over at Spatula,  er  sorry, make that over at the ‘Mostly T’


clarkscottroger About clarkscottroger
Well, what exactly do you want to know? Whether I am a clark or a scott or roger? If you have to ask, then you need to keep reading the Posts for two reasons: a)to get a clear enough understanding to be able to make the determination of which type I am and 2) to realize that by definition I am all three.* *which is true for you as well, all three...but mostly one


  1. Somehow I knew the song would be “Sunday Papers”. Most excellent album because, yes, I have the vinyl from “back then”.

    It was a good call. Enjoyed the challenge of conversing with 2 other clarks. Clearly.

  2. Cyndi says:

    Fun stuff. Fluency. Yeah. I’ve been studying Spanish for a long time and still don’t sound like a native, LOL. One of these days…
    But maybe not cuz I”m doing a lot of writing/photography/art and generally I do that stuff in English, LOL.
    Sorry I missed the call-in last night. However, looking forward to the secret projekt. :)

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:


      we are all working with the premise (that) to the understand everything about the Wakefield Doctrine (and therefore get the most benefit from it), we need to develops tools (or at least, methodologies) to aid us in this process. Yeah, the Secret Project Project sounds like it might be fun. More to follow…

  3. Jennifer says:


    Joe Jackson ruled, eh?

    By the way, in response to the “fluency”

    A scottian Joe Jackson: I’m the Man: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/joe+jackson/im+the+man_20072694.html

    as opposed to

    A clark-like high school Joe Jackson: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/joe+jackson+band/awkward+age_20810818.html

  4. Jennifer says:

    Damn I meant to post the videos so here you go

    Scottian Joe Jackson I’m the Man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24SqXy4d6bI&playnext=1&list=PL0FB0776EE3152127&feature=results_video

    (tough to pick the scottian songs. so many)

    Clark-like Joe Jackson Awkward Age http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTLFOOC3ub4

  5. Jennifer says:

    OK. I kind of got the fluency thing wrong. So here goes via video lyrics)

    You are a scott trying to tell a clark you can get anything one way or another.

    As a scott you would start singing a fast, loud song as an example.(“I’m the Man”)

    As a clark you appear to be listening, maybe even agreeing. You rub your chin and nod your head. But you can’t get a song (“Awkward Age”) out of your mind. It’s the whole “awkward” thing that used to follow you around and made you feel like an outsider.

    There. My redemption on the fluency thing via music.

    Take it or leave it. Since I enjoy Joe Jackson so much I figured I’d use his music as a vessel.

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:


      Yeah Joe is totally the man. Did I mention he is a clark? lol though I completely agree with your use of lyrics as a way of manifesting one (or all) of the three personality types…which is not such a reach as we all have all three available. (That last can be a bit confusing to the newer Reader. Recap: we all have the capacity to experience the world as one of the three, we pick one at an early age (our predominant worldview) but we retain the access to the other two. These are referred to as the secondary and tertiary aspects. It is not a given that everyone has a significant secondary or tertiary, but the capacity is there. Some people don’t manifest a secondary or tertiary aspects.

  6. Molly Molly M. says:

    My attempt at rogerian fluency (assuming I think the person is worth responding to):
    “Oh, you think you are so smart don’t you? Get over your self already.” *turn and walk away — don’t wait for a response*

    …okay, I don’t know if that is rogerian or not, but I know in college it got the person criticizing me laughed at.

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:


      “..it got the person criticizing me laughed at.” That is the aspect that makes it either rogerian (or possibly in a different context, scottian, but probably not*)
      Nice examplifying…can’t wait to do the Post tomorrow, you have a good lead-in with this here Comment here.