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Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers)

Mark your calendars! Only twenty-five days ’til Summer!

On with the reprint!

(In case we can’t find anything RePrint-worthy, on this weekend’s Guys2 & G1 Livestream we did discuss… )

We interrupt this genuinely sincere attempt to bring the most wonderful of perspectives on the world around us, (and the people who make it up), with the following ‘first-time-with-your-parents-car-driving-with-your-high-school-friends-at-night feeling kinda post.

Full Disclosure: we haven’t bothered to read it in it’s entirety. But, seeing how we hit Publish once already, back when this blog was new(ish), we’ll take a leap of faith and post it without reading.

Hey! Alert Reader Dinise (owner and proprietorini of the fabulous Six Sentence Story blog hop just signaled of a major misspelling. All set. (If you’re one of them what pulled up the post before we corrected, hold onto the Post!! It’ll be worth something, someday.

 

(BONUS Post-ette included today!!) the Wakefield Doctrine “1st Annual Black Friday Video Chat…Tonight! at 7*”

Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and roger)

Hey!  Tomorrow  Friday   Tonight as in later in the same day as you are reading this here correction in….from  (unless, of course, you forget and don’t read this Post until tomorrow, the forget about it) ….November 29th  ( 29-Nov-13 to our International Friends) at  7:00 pm*  First Annual Black Friday Video and X-rated Movie Festival!!BONUS new material!***

Speaking of contributions from Downsprings,  had an interesting and challenging discussion with Phyllis the other morning regarding rogers. For some distantly related reason Phyllis said that ‘rogers are mean’. Out of the context in which this sentence was made, this statement, ‘rogersare mean’ demanded consideration. For if a statement is true about one form, what does it tell us about the other two forms? So from that Phyllis’ single statement we jumped to the following:

rogers are mean, scotts are cruel and clarks are heartless

So, lets consider these statements.
We start with the premise, i.e. when one (of us) chooses to be unkind to another, what is the characteristic of the behavior relative to our type. (Or may I could just say, why are clarks heartless and scotts cruel and rogersmean, instead of say, clarks are cruel and rogers are heartless etc)  ( Update:  The current preferred way of expressing this:  how do each of the three ‘manifest’ the state of ‘to negatively affect another’ This is a result of the understanding that ‘everyone does everything at one time or another’. )

‘Rogers are mean’ because when they want to negatively affect someone, they do it within the context of the herd. They will gossip and talk among each other about the target (of this negativity). They will never go up to the target(person) and say ‘you are a slut’. Instead they will say to each other, ’isn’t she such a slut’? It will be the group opinion that will constitute the negative effect. In other words, if an outsider comes on the scene and and needs information reagrding this person, the herd will make a point of offering an opinion. ( as in:  “hey, clark! because I’m your friend and no one will say this, I think I owe it to tell you that everyone thinks you’re a slut. Not that I agree with them, but I am your friend” )  Updated 11.29.13
(Now class, why is that so rogerian?)
(God, I so love to lecture)

The answer is, of course, because the effort to affect a non-herd member is always done among and within the herd. No single member (of the herd) could or would approach the ’target person’ directly and certainly would not say anything to their face.

All right, then how about scotts? Why cruel instead of heartless or mean?
Because it is the nature of predators, to act alone. Granted scotts will gather in packs when the occasion rises, but for the most part they hunt alone. And when a scott is being ‘negative’ it is expressed in a manner that can only be called cruelty. Part of this is the result of the fact that scotts will act directly but impersonally. They enjoy the efforts of the prey to resist, hey that squirming and trying to get away is the damn relish. But its nothing personal, the scott is hungry and the prey is food. So in the case of scotts, this cruelty is the ‘way of nature’ cruelty.

Clarks? Heartless? No! Say it ain’t so!! If any Reader needs it explained, then you need to read the content in these Pages a bit more.

So leave a Comment let everyone know if you are intending to join us tomorrow… you may regret your rash decision, but hey, that’s what the Wakefield Doctrine blog is for!!

(I’ll be back in the course of the day today, will have more details and and insights and outrageous assertions as, I trust you have all come to expect from everyone’s new favorite Doctrine, the Wakefield Doctrine continues it’s coverage of this first of ‘the Big Three Holidays)

(back) So what do you have to look forward to from the Wakefield Doctrine this Joyous Winter Season?   more scott and more roger!  you do recall that the Doctrine holds that we all have (the potential) inherent in all three worldviews, don’t you?  and you remember what we said about using the Wakefield Doctrine as a tool for self-development, right?  (i.e. ‘simple as can be, harder than anything you have ever tried to do’…that) Well that’s what we are going to be spending your valuable blog-reading time over the next 6 weeks or so. Plan accordingly.

 

(back)  I know that I write every year about parades… (rogerian essential) but my god!! where the hell is Child Protection services?  those poor children… 3 hours walking the streets of New York City , in 30 degree windy temperature all for 5 seconds ‘in frame’ in front of Macy’s so the folks back in Indiana can say ‘look!! it’s Tracy!!! what the hell’s the matter with her face?’
On a personal note: the over-hormoned 23 year old inside of me died a little late this morning as I sat in stunned disbelief as Joan Jett stood, singing, on a frickin float…. not a cigarette or ‘record machine’ in sight…waving at the crowds with a blank look on her still very attractive face…

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back) (…again!)  that ‘cover photo? the one with the Delegates from Slovenia?  that goes back to the early days of this blog. we had a thing about Slovenians!!  (a good thing, nothing bad…just a fun kinda affectation.) will tell you more in a little bit

 

* For the time-zone impaired:

  • Jak!! yo!!! that means  6:00 pm  Twin City time
  • Stephanie?  I believe you will have to stay up kind of late… this being like 2:00 am (!) in your time…. well, there’s always the Sunday Video Brunch (which is 3:30 pm local  i.e. your local )
  • Molly?  yeah… I know we’ll need to co-odrdinate on the google circle thing, but these Video chats are kinda fun… for you  it would be 5:00 pm  stop in while fixing dinner…if your phone can handle google hangouts
  • Michelle?  wakey wakey!!   8:00 yo
  • Lizzi?  it’s a Friday night! you get to stay up late ( sorry if we appear to be assuming that you would have nothing more…. exotic…exciting?  better to do on a Friday night!  12 Midnight!
  • Melanie  a late night rendavouz with what I trust is the oddest group of people you know
  • Christine… you know that we totally would love to have you join us…but it will be either 6 or 7 pm your time, so I suspect that you’ll be in the middle of dishes and homework and such… but if you do get a chance…on your phone  come hangout with us!
  • Kristi   oh Kristi!  come out and plaaay
  • Richard oh Richard….  lol  you know it would be fun

**  ‘cept for Zoe… she has a very rare, ‘Join in late Card’  a privilege enjoyed by few, so step carefully when you join the brunch!  lol

 

*** well, ‘new’ in the sense that if you were born anytime after, say… I don’t know  2011?? then this is totally new and original!! hey, it’s a great insight from a DownSpring so ya better appreciate it …you know how hard it is to get a roger to say anything that amounts to more than ‘I told you so…’??!  I didn’t think so…. so read and comment, already.

 

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Hey! there’s a post-worthy phrase!  (a) ‘Leap of Faith’… remind us to make that the topic of tomorrow’s post

 

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Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers)

This is the Wakefield Doctrine’s contribution to the Ten Things of Thankful (TToT) bloghop.

oh…em…jee!

New Readers and participants? The SOP for construction (creating? compiling?!) a TT0T post is to write a list of the people, places and things that have elicited and, otherwise, have been at the root of an episode, however transient that involved the emotion of gratitude. This has been the practice adhered to since the founding of the bloghop on the final week of the penultimate month of the year (Gregorian not Julian) by our founderess in the Anno Domino* 1989.

But that’s not important right now!** What is, is that, here in Oceania, we had one of the Big Three holidays: Thanksgiving. ayiiee… that creates either a state of infinite regression1, gratitationally-speaking or, just provides some easy introductory material.

1) Una

2) Phyllis

3) the Wakefield Doctrine

4) the cottage project is complete2

5) the Six Sentence Story a place to send quick, little stories

6) * the availability of single songs that elbow their way (tunefully, of course) into our stream of consciousness and turn a TToT that is primarily photos and random thought into a well-thought-out…. err (Domino music vid below)

7) an afternoon’s conversation with two interesting people and your’s truly best place, we hear is to go over to the youtube and wait or, if you prefer, at the FB

8) something, something?

9) One of the cool things about the realization of P’s cottage (at the top of the Post) is that it draws much from a WIP/work of fiction, Almira; specifically, its modeled after the feeling/tone…no! wait! this is a once-a-week writing occasion, lets go for the fun…. what Phyllis is going for, both in the interior and the exterior is the design aesthetic of the library in the Gulch family home on the East Side of Providence.

10) Secret Rule 1.3

** Airplane!

  1. lol (Homer Simpson voice) ‘Philosophy… mmmm’
  2. for the year. next spring will be the patio see Grat# 9 above

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Too-too Tuesday -the Wakefield Doctrine-

Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers)

Hey! Before it fades, we witnessed a new rogerian Expression!* A character on a show (forget the show, remember the character) facing a situation that is challenging on all levels, says, “Well, that’s a tall pill to swallow.”

(something, something… didn’t want to step on the only, vaguely original thought in this post. Given the holiday, here in Oceania, later in this week, thought it best.)

* what are rogerian Expressions?!? sorry, didn’t see your ‘New Reader Leave Me Alone, please’ badge.

Welll… have a seat. Can we get you a coffee and something to nosh on? ok, we see you have the three name tags recommended for first time visitors to the Doctrine. Never a bad idea to leave your options open until it’s too late. Here’s the link to the original reference, just in case. If you’re in a hurry, scroll down to near the bottom of the Page in rogers,

Don’t go anywhere, gots to find a reprint and finish up the post.

lol!! damn! Sorry, I just encountered one of those, probably-only-because-it’s-the-blogosphere moments. We all have those times when we don’t recognize our own writing. Most often very old posts. The normal reaction tends to be, “Hmm, kinda basic, but clearly that was us writing… keep practicing!” but sometimes, like today’s reprint, there’s a line that makes one laugh and think, “Alright! Weird as you thought you might be, but still…kinda funny,”

 

of egos and empathy the Wakefield Doctrine (yes, I know! it’s already half past Monday! )

Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers) Sorry for leaving an undeniably out of date Post up there, after all, it frickin says ‘Saturday’ in the damn Title. So while we rack my damn brain for some fresh Content, here is a reprint Post, which is actually surprisingly germane to where our thinking is on the Doctrine. Don’t want to get into it too much but we will say this: a) the Wakefield Doctrine stands to become a very cool tool for self-development (for those so inclined) and  2) those rogers have been relaxing long enough in the wings…time to get this show on.

But for now, please enjoy:

Welcome*

…we know now, ( if you read yesterday’s Post, you know now ), the relationship between rogers and scotts is a very… intimate pairing. While easy to mistake the roger’s as ‘victim’ to the scott’s predation, we know that this is totally not the case. ( New Readers!  Go and listen to DownSpring Phyllis in Episode 13 of Video Friday), rather it is obvious that there is very much a symbiotic relationship binding1 your rogers and scotts.  The Wakefield Doctrine is gender neutral, however it is often where gender is the central feature, that we can see the relationship between these two personality types in highest contrast. We all know a couple** where the guy is a roger and the girl is a scott. He is always pretty and she is always sexy. He is socially adept and she is socially aggressive. It is when these two are observed tant qu’ensemble,  do we see the interplay of each personality type.  With a roger/scott couple,  it is the scott who is quick with the jokes about (the roger), ” oh yeah,  you should have seen roger on our honeymoon! he was so nervous”  (this kind of comment actually serves two purposes: a) make fun of the roger for the amusement of the surrounding group and b) (serve) as bait to entice any rogers listening to the story). The roger, in this situation, laughs comfortably and watches the reaction of the female members of their ‘audience’.  Think:  Bill and Hillary Clinton  or  (for you older Readers), Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton   …hell, lets throw in  Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston!  In any event, you will find ‘this couple’  in most social gatherings where attendance of ‘couples’ is appropriate. It needs to be said that this type of relationship (roger/scott) is by no means exclusive to ‘couples’ in the romantic sense; anywhere there are people interacting, you will find the dynamic described here.  And, as Phyllis points out in her Video interview, the roger is not truly the passive partner. (From the rogerian perspective), the seemingly passive one is ‘leading from behind’ and reining in the scott, particularly in the public/social situations that we are using to illustrate the two personality types.

While the roger-scott relationship is relatively easy ( if not kind of…racydynamic… “ewww, I can’t believe she said that“…) to understand, what of the roger-clark relationship?

Before we continue with our discussion, a quick note!  You know how we have been accused of… making up words,  (neologisms, to get rogerian on it) for our own enjoyment?  ( No? well we do!) Real made-up words, not rogerian expressions, in any case, with Molly’s help we went and sent in a word to the Urban Dictionary just last evening. While not up to the sublime, subtly-nuanced standards found with most of the entries there, we are beginning to spread more and more into the ‘real world’.  Thanks Molly!

The roger-clark relationship is much more stable, less wildly dynamic than is the roger-scott relationship. As the ‘active’ partner in a roger-scott relationship is usually the scott, the roger plays the more active role in the roger-clark couple. This is attributable more to the patience of the clark than (to) the aggressiveness of the roger.  Lets just say that in the ‘natural’ relationship between rogers and clarks

rogers are to clarks as:

  • a diploma is to an education
  • (the) record to the needle
  • the ocean to the tide
  • Thanksgiving is to Christmas

(As with yesterday’s Post, here is where we will relate an anecdote to serve as an illustration of some part of this Post.  So I was talking to the Progenitor roger just the other day, the conversation was great fun, ranging an incredible variety of topics. This is as much evidence of the rogerian skill at story-telling, as it is proof of a clarks ability to adapt to nearly any situation.  In any event, roger and I were talking and the topic came around to either:  a)dinner, b)body weight or c) both a & b, at which point, roger made the statement, ” of course, you would be eating tuna casserole…” Now this statement should not mean anything to you, (the Reader), however, what makes it so atypical of rogers is that at one time in the past (say …20 years ago) I was on a tuna casserole diet. Great meal, tuna…noodles…good hot or cold…perfect food! Being a clark, I could, (and did), eat tuna casserole for every meal. The point of this story is that roger mentioned this…menu choice, as if it were (still) true. What is remarkable about the sentence that he made was not that it was no longer true, rather that he made the statement with such certainty and conviction that, for a second, I could almost smell tuna casserole. rogers do that, they maintain a (certain) worldview that they have decided is accurate, the passage of time, (in this case, 20 years), has zero effect on how true the roger will hold their statement to be… This capability is at heart of the rogerian need to: preserve, to maintain tradition, to support their view of the world as lasting and consistent. This is perhaps the  reason that rogers are such effective story-tellers…they maybe be relating a tale, one that they totally make up, but when they tell it, it is ‘true’. The listener feels this (rogerian) conviction that the story is true, it must be simply because (the roger) remembers it so…)

  • musical technique is to creativity
  • machine operator is to a Teacher

Well that wraps up Chapter II.  Be sure to stay for the Video  (  isn’t George just so….dreamy??! )

1) lol…ask a scott

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** we mean it about gender neutral…the term ‘couple’ is not limited to simple heterosexual pairs… can include any relationship, sexual and/or friendship-based

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Six Sentence Story -the Wakefield Doctrine- [a Café Six]

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This is the Doctrine’s contribution to the Six Sentence Story bloghop.

Denise is the host.

This week’s prompt word:

ENERGY

“It’s obvious you people have the organizational energy and requisite expertise, the only negative my auditors can find is in the make-up of your Board of Directors,” the fund manager glanced towards his entourage, silent preface to what he considered a most urbane witticism, “I understand they refer to themselves as the Proprietors?”

Expensively-tailored chuckles ensued, as the individual members of the appraisal team seized on the next thorny branch in their upwards climb to corporate heaven; the merriment faltered into silence as the tall, thin man turned towards the group with an expression that, in the realpolitik of finance and lending, made Mr. Potter, the banker in the movie, ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’, look like Saint Francis of Assisi.

As it happened, the tour of the interior of the Six Sentence Café & Bistro ended at the waitress station which permitted access behind the bar and, from there to the kitchen; scrambling like clowns out of a car suddenly dropped into a junkyard metal crusher, as the fund manager began to stutter that he was not making fun, rather that he was impressed with the level of sophisticated professionalism in everything he’d seen, he was interrupted by a dog’s bark and a woman’s voice.

Stepping through the double swinging doors and around to the outside edge of the bar, a woman and a dog stood in front of the group; without a word, the tall, thin man crouched in front of the dog and, ignoring the uncomfortable silence of the bankers, stuck out his tongue and did a passable imitation of a dog panting and inviting play.

Looking down at the dog and man, the woman smiled with obvious affection and, after a moment, said, “I believe you gentlemen,” a nodded acknowledgement towards the sole woman in the group, “have nothing we need.”

Looking back to the man and the dog on the floor between her and the bankers. she appeared to speak to the dog, “I trust you’ll forgive our species as some of it’s members mistake the meanness of sarcasm for clever humor and since we haven’t time for paper-training, they’ll be leaving now”; Húnga wagged his tail and the tall, thin man smiled.

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Tuesday -the Wakefield Doctrine- “…Rule 8”

Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers)

“…no, I was talking to the Texas School Book Depository Building behind you!”

Rule 8: ‘If this is your first time at this blog, you have to Comment’.*

Be that as it may, here’s a fun Reprint what be talkin’ about our scottian friends. (The other person in the car, in the vid, is FOTD Glenn.)

Stormy Monday, week’s beginning…the Wakefield Doctrine (a view of personality types that you might really enjoy)

Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of personality that is based on the notion that we all experience life from one of three characteristic perspectives)(SPECIAL VIDEO: from a Saturday Night Drive on the eve of Hurricane Irene! August 31, 2011  I believe it was billed as the Storm of the Epoch)

Lots on the agenda for the Week, here at the Doctrine:

  • a closer look at scotts (please do not cross the yellow lines, or make any sudden moves)
  • we went and signed up with BlogTalkRadio (now all we have to do is understand the instructions on how to do this thing)
  • Wakefield Doctrine DocTees should go into production (hey, it’s still cheaper than new golf clubs!)
  • don’t you think that’ll do for a Monday Post? (bulletpointistically  speaking, that is)


scott
 n.  1. the personality type associated with the worldview characterized as Predator/Prey, 2. the second of the three personality types that comprise the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers
adj. scottian [scoe-shun]

So where do we start?
How about: you have a friend, a person you have known for years, since you were young. (He/She) was one who got you to stay out later than your parents would let you, smoked cigarettes first, made out with a boy first, got into more fights than anyone you knew and saved you from getting into fights that you would not, could not win. This friend was smart but did not get good marks, funny but always went too far with the jokes, loyal yet at times moody and was (and still is) a lot of fun to be with… except when they get mad (which is often) or become overly aggressive (which you seem to tolerate) and still, after all these years he/she still manages to embarrass you in social situations.

Some bullets points relating to the nature and character of the scottian personality type:

  • scotts are leaders (because they are certain, not necessarily right, but certain).
  • scotts are self-confident/self-assured/certain (which is why, of course, they are the leaders)
  • scotts are very emotional, but  in a way different way from rogers,  mecurial is the best word to describe these people
  • in a band it is always a scott who is the ‘front man’, (see leader above)
  • at a party scotts will  introduce themselves (to everyone)
  • when confronted with a threat or other fear-generating situation, a scott will choose to attack rather than flee
  • scottian females can be ridiculously sexy or quick witted, hardly ever both.
  • (female) scotts can be spotted because they have prominent throat tendons (ask us why)


BlogTalkRadio.
We have been looking for ways to increase the participation of Readers in the ongoing conversation about how the Wakefield Doctrine is both fun and useful. As everyone should know by now, we have a “call-in’ in show very Saturday night (the Wakefield Doctrine Saturday Night Drive), which utilizes a conference call service, i.e. there is a phone number and access code and (once signed in) you are effectively in a conference call with the other people. It’s a lot of fun, those who call in each Saturday Night create a very stimulating conversational environment with topics ranging from the silly to the profound. But….

 

Wakefield Doctrine DocTees Update: it seems that the DocTees are viewed as more useful and desirable blog-swag* than the Wakefield Doctrine hats (for your damn heads). There may be a bit of a gender issue here, if the Ys are outnumbered by the Xs , as current demographic studies indicate. If Readers  would rather wear a DocTee, than put a hat on your damn heads, it is totally fine with us… even though the design of the  hats allowed for personality-type specificity! (Having said that, if the DocTees become popular enough, we can always** get them re-designed to, somehow, include a highlighting of the personality type as do the hats. (for example on the hats:

 

Well that’s it for Monday’s Post. Let us know if the ‘experiment in Post formatting’ added to your reading experience in a positive way. We have so little time and so much to do, but we as always maintain, “if you are not nearly sick with apprehension as a result of trying to improve this blog, then you are a total, and irredeemable loser and don’t deserve a single damn Reader Comment. …and always try to have fun

 

* thanks to Chuck Palahniuk author of Fight Club for the opp to paraphrase one of the Rules of Fight Club**

** it’s not like he was, all, ‘Sure, clark! Paraphrase to your heart content! Glad I could be of help!’ But, he did gift the world with the amazing story.

 

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