Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers)
Today’s Post is for our more Advanced Readers.
Today’s Post contains an example of one of those moments, when the work you have put into learning the characteristics of the three worldviews pays off… I want you to know that we appreciate how difficult it can be to hold the characteristics in your head, going through your day, hoping to observe the people in your world demonstrate the personality traits that we talk about in this blog, only to have things ‘click’ 15 minutes after you leave the supermarket checkout line where the girl at the register, (who seemed quite attractive, even with the piercings and the tattoo and the streak of purple in her hair), said something that made you laugh and you can’t for the life of you remember exactly what she said…. we know how there are people in your family who come to mind after you read a Post and you’re pretty sure you know which of the three personality types they are, but you forget which is the weird one and which is the man-eater and which is the pain in the ass…
- clarks are the personality types that make perfect sense if you imagine you grew up being the Outsider, never having the most basic of beliefs, i.e. that you belong, that you are just like everyone else and instead you ‘knew’ that you missed learning something that everyone else learned and that all you had to do is discover what that information is and then you would be accepted, but until then you really had better not be too obvious how … ‘not the same‘ you really are or something bad might happen
- scotts who, if you forget that they are your husband (‘he can be so kind, sometimes he has trouble with his anger’) or your boss (‘…funny stories, will totally ‘go to bat for you’…just wish he didn’t get so off-color sometimes’) or your neighbor (‘she has her family so organized… if you need to leave the kids on short notice she is the first to help…but the way she acts around your husband, if you didn’t know him better’), are understandable if you watch how predators (lions and tigers and dogs, oh my!) act on those nature shows… mercurial and enthusiastic, impulsive and helpful they are living examples of ‘live life for the day’
- rogers… the glue of human society, the flypaper of human potential… (lol a joke that strikes me funnier than it probably is, but it’s 2:12 am and experience tells us that many things at 2:12 am are funnier and sometimes scarier than they are in the day world.) rogers are the personality type that results from knowing that you are a part of the group, the herd; rogers are the personality type that live for tradition and connections and they are the person who is reliable and inflexible, precise and narrow-minded, kind and bigoted, this is the personality type that the following commercial is meant for:
So watch and smile or laugh or scratch your head and say (to yourself ) ‘I guess I missed something, I don’t see the humor’ (or) ‘of course!’ (or) ‘frickin rogers!’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48_Kfthnm6g
About clarkscottroger
So right! The commercial does say it all because nothing says “rogers” better than something like ancestry.com. A place you can navigate that is a massive repository of historical, ancestral data. A roger be in heaven:) May I add, God bless them all because no one other than a roger would have the patience to persist in the endeavor to discover one’s roots LOL
Denise
lets not give away the actual ‘laugh line’ in this thing!
While there are those who say my reactions (to the evidence and demonstrations of the Wakefield Doctrine in the everyday world) are somewhat suspect*… I defy anyone (provided you have the essential element of the character of the rogerian worldview) not to laugh and think, “wait a minute! clark put them up to that…they wrote the commercial and a goof on the Doctrine!”
* what, just because I have been close enough to this thing that I actually see the world and everything in it in Doctrine terms? that does not disqualify me! lol (if I were a roger I would liken my being able to see the world in Doctrine terms to when Neo (in the Matrix) found that he could see everything as the programing it was… but, alas I’m not that rogerian…
I had a temporary lapse in using the Doctrine yesterday when I got all traumatized by my sister. She called me up on the phone and proceeded to lecture me as to just why SHE would never be on social networks, how dangerous they are, and how, over her friend’s email, she discovered my “face” because of my LinkedIn profile. She talked about how people got bullied, how people lose their identities, and how social networking is such gossip.
Okay, so I know she’s completely Rogerian. And, in all terms of endearment, slightly nuts. Completely over-religious and holier than thou.
Yet, she still managed to traumatize me. I don’t take her that seriously.
Yet, she still traumatized me.
Dammit.
Of course, I told her that everything has inherent risks. Heck, even crossing the street could be a life or death experience.
But man…I wish I had a “Doctrine First-Aid Kit” for traumatic situations. 40 minutes of trauma she kindly bestowed upon me. And me being a freaking clark and wanting to “be nice” I didn’t hang up.
LOL. I’m a mess. ;)
Take heart Cyndi. It was indeed a “temporary” lapse:) You already know your sister is a roger. A ” f’n roger” as they are affectionately referred to by some. LOL When you feel such an onslaught like that coming on again, know that you have at least 2 options. One you already identified. Your scottian aspect would quickly end the conversation without hesitation. The second option would be more fun if you’re in the mood. And that is to enthusiastically (in exaggerated fashion) agree with your sister, get HER all worked up about how people this, people that and then….abruptly hang up the phone. Oh and don’t pick up if she calls right back. Ignore the voice mails, e-mails. LOL
HHAHA. Denise, I LOVE it! :)
Okay…(and this always happens to me) – after THINKING about it, the next time it happens – because, you know, I don’t do what everyone else does and she LOVES to call me out on it whenever she gets a chance:
I’m going to activate my inner-Scott and call HER out on her criticisms of me (that’ll get the emotions going, lol) and that’s why we don’t talk more, AND THEN, I will proceed to use some highly awesome Gandhi quotes and such.
I do like that second option. I find it hilarious, actually. Now…if I just had the courage to hang up. It would only work if she pissed me off enough. She knows how to piss me off just enough that I’ll still keep talking like an idiot. Dammit. LOLOL
Just get existential on her ass – she’ll hate that. That’s your other option – clark like a mad one until you’ve lost her and imploded her little mind.
*hugs*
My dear Denise – you are a GENIUS!
Cyndi
it’s a good thing. you know that she is a roger and you know why you know… that’s the good news. (I am willing to bet that you are feeling a little better now, after the comment from Denise). But as we say, ‘the Wakefield Doctrine is for you, not for them’. So, while your sister will remain a roger, the degree to which she ‘gets to you’ is forever changed, not because you have changed her, but because you have changed you.
(This is such a challenging aspect to the Doctrine, to smooth the interactions and exchanges between ourselves and the rogers around us! Very exciting time!)
As Denise says, “those f’ ing Rogers.” LOLOL
” so while your sister will remain a roger…” A fate much worse than simple death… Very Catholic of you, Progenitor.
roger
lol
(tell me, since we have not yet heard from Michelle (her being on the farside of the earth)… when you got to the ‘punchline’ of the commercial (submitted for your consideration)… did you feel like: a) laughing b) fighting c) crying or 4) finding someone to relate to
Based on that, I am a Clark, with some scottian traits (don’t you mess with my family!!), who would like to be a Roger (belong),, but please keep the scottian traits (again:don’t mess with my family!!). Weird.. Twisted?
Stephanie
no not weird (not even twisted)… worldviews! predominant worldview ‘sets the stage’, establishes the reality you are in… scottian secondary traits are not so uncommon in clarks. predominant clark mothers are pretty impressive in terms of protectiveness (which is a characteristic of all three), in fact, this would be a good time to remind Readers of a very critical aspect of using the Doctrine: ‘everyone does everything at one time or another’ in this case, ‘protectiveness of mothers for their family’ is a quality found in all three personality types. The point is, how does this quality manifest in (each) of the three personal realities… scottian mothers are fierce and protective… rogerian mothers are cautious/careful and protective and clarklike mothers are psychotically-selfless and protective.
(lol! seriously… clarklike mothers are totally selfless which, if you are thoughtful in your observations, shows between the three worldview.)
remember folks! ‘…the goal is to see the world as the other person experiences’ and ‘…to infer how the other person relates themselves to the world around them’
:) (says she of few words today)
What, no ‘mini’ discussion today?? This was incredibly mini of you…
“Blah blah blah and then you get a…”
*stony silence*
Whoop. De. F’CKN. Doo.
*sigh*
“Captain, we appear to have disengaged…reinitialise?”
Based on previous discussions about rogers, in particular, the idea that one of the “worst things” a roger can face is being in a situation where they are unprepared. Yes, yes. The Doctrine is for me, but how can I help a roger “prepare” when life has thrown HUGE changes at them – when the life they have always known is no longer?
My clarklike self understands cognitively (naturally) what is happening to this roger but I am unable to suggest anything to help them get unstuck and move forward. Despite all their talents and abilities, the roger is mired in emotion (past and present), frustration (at life being so different and foreign, ie unfamiliar). With almost no resources available to them (both the roger and the clark), what’s a clark to do?
(secretly there are 2 questions: how to help a roger prepare, and how to help a roger accept that life can be good even if it’s different from what they have always known)
a clark’s strength, my strength, is made up of various things – being able to conceive of any sort of future, nothing is impossible, the will to not be defeated and of course the ability to hold emotion in check. Until which time we/I can let loose somewhere and clean up the mess in private. LOL
“Emotional investment”. How do you motivate a roger to reach a level of emotional investment sufficient to carry him to that new and unfamiliar place?
in overly simple terms: become a scott
You know Clark I love hanging here. But all I was going to do was comment about the commercial and its rogerian worldview. instead I got all caught up in this psychological discussion. So I’m just going to backup and say hahahahaha about the commercial and move along.
Zoe
no no! comment on the rogerian worldview and the commercial. We are open to any and all ways to describe the world (from the perspective of the three worldviews).
…. you want convoluted discussion?!? welll we can accommodate ya there too (the biggest secret project is the develop the common language project the DCLP lol) space prohibits any real discussion in a Comment, but when you do get to join us on a Video Brunch, be sure to raise the topic
in all seriousness, any and all insight is useful and valuable, especially as you suggest you might have a secondary rogerian aspect tres valuable asset yo
No, it was really an issue of I’m indisposed at the moment. I’m sitting in a waiting room in Boston. And we have a couple moments between appointments. Believe me I’m fully capable of the convoluted b******* it takes to participate in any psychological discussion. :)
zoe
my characterization of ‘convoluted’ was in reference to my writing skills… not your (or any Readers) ability to participate lol
zoe
truth be known, I have trouble expressing verbally speaking the idea of how it is I propose to forge a common link/language between the three worldviews… I do however, insist that, though it is way a long shot, it is possible, even allowing for the fact that the very expression of this idea is solidly in the realm of the clarklike worldview and therefore hamstrung in terms of carrying it over to the scottian and rogerian.
Okay so I have another minute between appts… So that said… to your last comment …”wow” you got that convoluted thing downpat! LOL. Leave it to a clark eh? Also re the commercial… did you see the one after it (on You Tube) where the roger is evesdropping? Illustrates the point even further, yes? Frikkin’ Rogers…gotta go…someone’s a-callin’…
F*cking Rogers!! Hey I have a question. What if, on the inside, I’m a Clark, but on the outside, people don’t realize it and think I’m like some leader or something? What’s up with that?
Great post ;)
Kristi
…don’t fuckin tell ’em (all us clarks tend to have that potential, but most of us at so afraid of being ‘found out’ that we disqualify our-own-damn-selfs right out of the gate.)
good job (I won’t tell.)
Whew. I definitely won’t tell them then. Because I kind of like it.
your secret is safe here… lol no one is going to tell, afterall, who’s going to take the chance to having to admit to reading this blog?
Ok so Im getting to be a pain in the ass now but I hate Boston days (ACK!)… what great advice is that?! Really! I totally agree! Don’t fuckin tell anyone! Have your read any of the research about “the imposter syndrome” in psych circles? Its classic Clark material. Ok … so I am gonna stop now and take off… whew! (sounds of sighs and “thank god-s…” overheard in the background…) thanks for letting me hang here this morning! cu on the TToT.
zoe
you totally need to join us on the Video Brunch… much will be revealed, misunderstandings transformed into life-changing insights, fear allayed and jokes will be enjoyed… just the average Wakefield Doctrine Video Brunch!
lol