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November 28, 2009 By clarkscottroger

“dit..dit…dit…” (a rogerian expression meant to connote the momentum of history and the irresistability of the future)

So, why start with this little chatski found in a back bedroom (or maybe a musty old library) in the Wakefield Doctrine? Truth be told, I don’t actually know.
More and more frequently, these Posts are being created in an ‘automatic writing’¹state of mind. A ‘state of mind’ that is both exhilarating and anxiety-laden. (Not such north pole/south pole qualities are they?) At any rate, there must be new Posts collecting here at a rate of at least twice a week and very often, lacking any coherent plan or topic, I will simply sit and start typing. And hope for the ‘best’.

This Post is being driven by an increasing awareness among the Progenitors and Downsprings of the forward momentum that appears to be developing here at the Wakefield Doctrine. To be more specific, lately there has been an increasingly diverse visitor/reader demographic coming to the blog, reading the blog, and (leaving little red dots on the map).
Ah yes, ‘the map’! Our ‘older’ readers will notice the addition of some features and the elimination of others in the blog; a global map showing points of origin of visitors and, (more recently a ‘widget’ that gives a fairly precise location of our Visitors.) One of the most common requests we hear from readers and other is the need for an ‘overview’ or guide (to the Doctrine). Anything that will help new visitors grasp the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers as quickly as possible. To this end, we have a little section at the top of the right-hand column (‘Tips for First time visitors’) that should help. (Any suggestions for tips to be included, do please Comment at the bottom of the Post.

(Had enough self-referential, angst-laden ‘reflection of the soul of a writer’ bullshit?) (Huh? Well have you?) (“Hello Sloveniaaannnssssss!”)

(Thats much better! Let us do this thing…)

This Post begins with a rogerian expression and if the Progenitor will not get his stone-washed, all-natural, tastes like tree bark, pants wearin ass up here and write some shit, then I will simply be forced to write in his stead.
So, to the topic at hand.

What is the deal with : ‘dit..dit…dit…’ and why make such a fuss? Because, like so many rogerian expressions ² this little phrase is symbolic of the power that we have, each according to their individual form, when properly applying the Wakefield Doctrine. An example:

‘so even though I studied all night for the final exam, including the extra material that you gave me, the exam itself was still a surprise, ‘dit..dit…dit…”

Now what is being expressed here? The fact of preparing for an exam? or (perhaps) how much extra preparation that went into the study? Is this about disappointment or elation? Yes and no. To properly understand what the use of dit..dit…dit… that is being illustrated here is, we must don our rogerian hats. (Though the term rogerian hats is redundant on an order of magnitude greater than ‘cute as a puppy’, still we must try. So get out those berets³, mon Frere(s)

(The) roger, living in a quantifiable, tradition based reality (as they do), looks upon school as a desirable (and necessary) part of growing up. School, for the roger, may not always be a pleasant experience but it is always a familiar one. And familiar will trump pleasant every single totally solitary time. After all, school is where one roger tells other (younger) rogers that there is history. All instruction and education is a presentation of history with a goal of creating the future. (WTF? stay with me here…) Rogers make up the majority of the teacher demographic because it is so natural to them. So regarding test preparation, test taking and test scoring, the heart and soul of the rogerian world can be found here, where the past, the present and the future come together, ‘dit…dit…dit…’
It simply is, and for a roger that is all that is necessary, a present supported by the past.

You know, this whole damn blog is nothing if it is not an effort to find a way to see beyond our own self-establishing limitations. But then you knew that already, didn’t you….clark

Damn! the scottian reader has got to have chewed off their own tails, most of the nearby furniture and every dog bone within a 50 metre radius. Scott! (whistle noise), scott come on in, its over now, the strange dusty man has gone back to the place he came from. Come on, I think I saw some rogers wandering by in search of a sale. (Lets walk down and get them all…)

So watch this space, there is no way that we will not see a Post from our Progenitor (roger). Stay tuned, binyons.

1) automatic writing : writing allegedly directed by a spirit or the unconscious mind. Sometimes called ‘trance writing’ because it is done quickly and without judgement.

2) rogerian expression: that ability of rogers to take words change them slightly and force upon the listener an entirely new meaning (of the word or phrase) see rogers

3) berets: is there any article of decorative clothing that is more rogerian than a beret? tell me, come on someone tell that it ain’t so.

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we of the university majors at Los Angeles, California who had a Harvard University Dean come to teach us

November 24, 2009 By clarkscottroger

…(That was a refreshing little naplet, blogorically speaking. But now, back to the work at hand…)

Welcome! Especially to our new friends in Australia, and Israel and of course, our friends in Slovenia!

Today we have kind of a special treat. Two of our Downsprings¹ are helping us out by participating in a little… T&A? err, PTA?, I got it! Q&A!

We have had people tell us, after a recent Post(…breaktime…), that they felt they got a better understanding of the Wakefield Doctrine when it was discussed in a context that was ‘applicable’ to everyday life. (Yeah, like in everyday life people decide to sneak up on a certain class of person and do something indefinable to them and then report back a score). Sure thats an everyday application in, maybe say, Zanaxville.

Anyway, we have a set of questions about the Doctrine that was presented to Joanne and Glenn (our Downsprings) and their answers are recorded in the following interview.

A little background first.
Glenn is probably the leading scott in terms of possessing both knowledge and (a practical) understanding of the Wakefield Doctrine. As a matter of fact, he helped instigate the process whereby the Doctrine was taken out of the realm of oral tradition and brought into the ‘real world’ of this blog. You will have to make allowances for him, after all he is a scott.
Joanne comes to us from the interested observer category, she has been witness to over 25 years of discussion and development of the Doctrine. Enhancing her position as a Downspring, Joanne offers as much a normal persons interpretation and application of the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers as we have in the group. She is a roger, but with a skepticism of the whole thing that helps us stay in touch with the thinking of the everyday person-on-the-street, in terms of applying the Wakefield Doctrine.
(They are both behaving quite well and are deserving of our respect and admiration.)

(To the interview):

Which of the three are you?
[Glenn]     Scott
[Joanne]    I am predominantly, a Roger.

What is the ‘best’ single positive trait or quality do you have as such?
[Glenn]      I’m wicked funny
[Joanne]    I am sensitive to other’s feelings.

The most negative single characteristic or quality?
[Glenn]     I can be reckless—verbally and behaviorally
[Joanne]     I pay too much attention to detail, although, sometimes that is a positive trait.

Which trait or personality quality do you have that you feel is most mis-understood by people of the other two forms. (For example: clarks don’t get this about me; or rogers don’t get this about me.)
[Glenn]     Clarks don’t understand that I act mostly out of a desire to have fun—not out of a desire to hurt anyone. Rogers don’t understand anything. They eat the grass and wait to be killed. They LOVE to feel like victims, so they perceive everything a scott does as “cruel”—and then they have a feelings festival—hurt, angry, sad, –the equivalent of a roger orgasm. Fuck them.
[Joanne]    The attention to detail is always misunderstood by the Scott that I am around often. Just try observing me and the Scott trying to put something together. We were putting a shed together one time, and I was standing in the corner frantically reading the directions while the Scott was banging nails. I kept telling her to stop..and finally convinced her to read the directions first. I seem to be less sure about discerning clarks from the other two. I’m not sure which people I know are clarks, so I can’t comment on how they misunderstand me.


If someone were to ask, ‘what is the surest way to spot one of your kind in a crowded shopping mall?’ what would you tell them?
[Glenn]     Anyone talking to more than one person—and holding their attention.
[Joanne]    I’m not sure about that one.

You are at the funeral of a friend and are asked to say a very few words, complete the following:

My friend was a clark and I felt…
[Glenn]     that he mostly enjoyed my company—and was more loyal than your best dog ever.
[Joanne]    ummm…let me think about that for a while.

My friend was a scott and I felt…
[Glenn]     an attachment to him based on competition—which evolved into respect as the years went by.
[Joanne]    I will miss my friend for her ability to just wing it in life

My friend was a roger and I felt…
[Glenn]     guilty that I didn’t indulge his incessant need for emotional validation and support. I feel bad. He thinks I found him to be a pain in the ass. He’s right.
[Joanne]    I will miss my friend for … so many, many, reasons. There were so many wonderful things about her..thoughtfulness, empathy, sensitivity….etc.

Finally, tell us what you think the practical value, if any, of the Wakefield Doctrine is.
[Glenn]     When rogers piss me off, I remember that they are rogers and cannot help it. They are doing the only thing they can do.
[Joanne]    It’s entertaining and I think if we know which type someone is, it may help us to understand their behavior and possibly not take some of their behavior personally.

(Now say good night to the Sloveniaannnns)
[Glenn]    How do you say “fuck you” in Slovenian?
[Joanne]    Good Night, Slov

Wellie, wellie, well. Was that not nice? There is much here that can be discussed and elaborated upon. But the primary goal was to help the Reader ‘hear’ the Doctrine actually applied to a situation that all of us might experience. I am sure there will be questions.

There is a space below (this Post) for your Comments. Do not, I repeat, do not be shy or bashful. We would love to hear your thoughts or questions. If you have any ideas for an extension of the (above) series of questions to our Downsprings, by all means ask.

1) Downspring is a term to designate a member of the group of people made aware of the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers by one of the Progenitors. In the context of this blog, there are three Progenitors and four Downsprings (Glenn, Joanne, Denise and Phyllis) all seven people have full access to the blog and creation of the contents.

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I’ll give you all I’ve got to give if you say you love me too

November 22, 2009 By clarkscottroger

(shhh…quiet until we get to the control room. Right this way,through these doors…)

There! Welcome to the control room at the Washoe Memorial Human Test and Assessment Facility. This is the where we will conduct our experiments on clarks, scotts and rogers.

Tonight we have a rogerian (female) and a scottian (male). Check here for information on any significant differences in gender and type expression.

STOP! STOP! STOP this Post. This thing is just not gonna work.

Sorry (Folks/Readers/SL’ers/Slovenniannns) I must apologise, I seem to have succumbed to hubris or (hopefully) just a slight case of ‘over-reachingitis’.

As you might surmise from the block quote above, the original idea was for a Post in which there were three writers, three voices, if you will; myself, a roger and a scott. I was planning on doing a ‘set up’ in which I would act as interlocutor and the other two people would be free to contribute as they might. And I had two of our Downsprings lined up to add their comments and thoughts to the Post. Essentially it would emulate what was done on a previous Post, the Wakefield Doctrine (…break time!). (That one seemed to work fairly well, if the feedback was any indication).
One too many trips to the well…

Seems that I was forgetting that as creative processes go, my writing blog Posts (for me in any event) is totally dependent on the ‘surprise’ appearance of ideas and the words that go along with them. This is probably not so unique or unusual in the blogosphere. Afterall, how many times has it happened that an idea comes (at work or play, home or school) and while we, the authors, of the idea are stunned with wonder at the power and brilliance of our creation, we make the mistake of letting the concept stay in our heads for much too long a time. Inevitably, when we do get around to presenting our idea to the world at large, we are met with a truly stunning indifference on the part of our readers.
As it dawns on us that we have lost our grip on the original idea all we hear is the collective intake of breath from our audience as they respond with a yawn of such depth that every living thing within a twenty mile radius that possesses a central nervous system is catapulted into a REM state faster than you can say ‘but wait I haven’t finished explaining my ide….’

Damn that sucks.

Well, I supposed this was bound to happen eventually. I felt that my inner muse of inspirational ideation….(IS THERE A WRITER IN THE HOUSE? THE NARRATOR IS GOING INTO LITERARY ARREST!) QUICK SOMEONE GET SOME BULLET POINTS, CURRENT EVENTS, SOMETHING…

…What happened? Where am I? (What are all these parenthesis doing (here?))

Alright, feeling a bit better. I know, I’ll plug in a gratuitous photo image! (I was planning on using in the Post anyway).

Alright, getting a bit better.

Having said that, the idea of Posts in which there is more than one voice will be seen again on these pages. This format lends itself to presenting much more information about the Wakefield Doctrine than is possible in a traditional Post. But for now, it needs a nap. Soon on to current events.

Activity and visits are up. Welcome to a new Reader (thats Contributess Almost Katherine Hepburn) , hey baby nice Comments!

Australia is in da house!! A big shoutout to Australiainenes (not sure, but this may be from someone I met in SL, in which case a big imaginary Welcome Jen!!)

Slovennianss…get your bad slavic selfs up here.

(Nothing like indulging in some poorly executed cultural patois to make a authorperson feel better.)

Stay tuned………good night Sloveniaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

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you tell me that it’s evolution, we all want to change the world

November 20, 2009 By clarkscottroger

This promises to be a brief Post, as there is much activity ‘behind the scenes’ at the Doctrine.

Had a Comment from an actual Reader! (Yeah, I know I should not sound so surprised), but there it was the other morning a readable if not slightly scottian Comment submitted by a ‘AlmostKatherine Hepburn’. While I never get tired of writing in the self-referential perspective of the Doctrine, I did get a kick out of reading something that was not written by any of us here (Progenitors and Downsprings).

Anyway, will be looking forward to contributions from Ms Hepburn going forward.

Speaking of contributions from Downsprings, had an interesting and challenging discussion with Phyllis the other morning regarding rogers. For some distantly related reason Phyllis said that ‘rogers are mean’. Out of the context in which this sentence was made, this statement, ‘rogers are mean’ demanded consideration. For if a statement is true about one form, what does it tell us about the other two forms? So from that Phyllis’ single statement we jumped to the following:

rogers are mean, scotts are cruel and clarks are heartless

So, lets consider these statements.
We start with the premise, i.e. when one (of us) chooses to be unkind to another, what is the characteristic of the behavior relative to our type. (Or may I could just say, why are clarks heartless and scotts cruel and rogers mean, instead of say, clarks are cruel and rogers are heartless etc)

‘Rogers are mean’ because when they want to negatively affect someone, they do it within the context of the herd. They will gossip and talk among each other about the target (of this negativity). They will never go up to the target(person) and say ‘you are a slut’. Instead they will say to each other, ‘isn’t she such a slut’? It will be the group opinion that will constitute the negative effect. In other words, if an outsider comes on the scene and and needs information reagrding this person, the herd will make a point of offering an opinion.
(Now class, why is that so rogerian?)
(God, I so love to lecture)

The answer is, of course, because the effort to affect a non-herd member is always done among and within the herd. No single member (of the herd) could or would approach the ‘target person’ directly and certainly would not say anything to their face.

All right, then how about scotts? Why cruel instead of heartless or mean?
Because it is the nature of predators, to act alone. Granted scotts will gather in packs when the occasion rises, but for the most part they hunt alone. And when a scott is being ‘negative’ it is expressed in a manner that can only be called cruelty. Part of this is the result of the fact that scotts will act directly but impersonally. They enjoy the efforts of the prey to resist, hey that squirming and trying to get away is the damn relish. But its nothing personal, the scott is hungry and the prey is food. So in the case of scotts, this cruelty is the ‘way of nature’ cruelty.

Clarks? Heartless? No! Say it ain’t so!! If any Reader needs it explained, then you need to read the content in these Pages a bit more.

Well, lets end it at that.

Big news, though. Working on a Post with two, count ’em two guests. The last Post with roger helping out (panic in Detroit…) got rave reviews and feedback. So, if it is worth doing, it is worth over-doing.

Look for it end of this weekend/beginning of week coming.

Until then…..goodnight Sloveniaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

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Panic in Detroit, I wish someone would phone

November 17, 2009 By clarkscottroger

(With apologies to: David Bowie, Jim McKay,Vinko Bogataj, agonosis and the thrill of Victory.)

Alright folks, here we go! The closing hours of the first annual Tag a scott Week! This is clark and I being your host, your histiss, your true and Humble Narrator. And for a special treat, I have the roger with me, yeah! Up in the booth, the Progenitor himself will be joining us as we take a look at a week that truly flown by.
Let’s have a reserved but warm and enthusiastic round of applause for the man…roger!

Welcome, my roger, welcome!
…the clark, yeah ‘thanks?’ for having me here? Where do you want me to sit? Is this the headset I get to use? Is this it for a set up? I don’t know..seems a little un-organised if you ask me. And why am I writing in blue?
I did? No I didn’t…. yeah alright I guess I did do that but it was a whole different context.

OK! …Before we start, a little backstory for those just joining us here at the Doctrine. (I’m talking to you, European Union! Shout outs to our new friends from Bosnia, Herzegovina and Israel. Sloveniaaa! is in da house.) Let’s take the time for a little ‘setpiece’ first, it will make the most of this as a learning opportunity.
Last week we announced the first annual tag a scott Week. There was a lot a buzz about the announcement, not surprisingly most of it was along the lines of, “uh do you really think this is such a good idea?” and “er clark? perhaps a more graduated approach would be better, like say call it take a scott to lunch or maybe flowers for your predator week? You know something a little less, whats the word? ‘scottian‘”
But, for better or for worse, tag a scott Week it was.

And what a week it has been. We have been getting reports in from the field from all three groups. At first, the Week got off to a slow start, but by Friday, going into the weekend, we started to hear from alot of the taggers and taggees.

The rogers were slow to catch on but once they saw other people participate, you couldn’t hold them back. Don’t want to use the term ‘stampede’ but how would you describe it roger?
We rogers prefer the term ‘(making) a demonstrative change of direction’, thank you. But my people, while slow to accept and embrace new ideas are warming to this Doctrine thing. And even though scotts give us the ‘love-escape’ syndrome’, you do what you can with what you got. It’s a start…

The clarks caught on right away, (no shit), but you know with those little misanthropes you can never be sure that they are doing what they are told or doing what they think they are being told. As a matter of fact, we had more than one roger call in and insist that a clark was helping a scott get out of a trap, and was that against the rules!
Boy did we get an earful! Hey roger, your people, do like they rules, neh?
Here’s the thing about rules, they are good, natural, necessary and, most of all they are pleasing. It’s not what you clarks think; we build and form rules because that is what is natural. We build a place for our children and descendents to be able to enjoy and they will remember us with respect and be inspired to continue the forming of a more perfect place.

Hey roger we got a caller on the line! She wants to know what you did with her branding iron?
okay…! I think I will let roger take that one. (for you in the audience just joining us… take a read of the Aug 7 entry on this Page or better yet this Page (think in terms as this caller is kinda Hillary calling Bill…)
I’ll take that call. (“yes, I know, I know I was supposed to drop it off at your office, I’m sure its in the car. I’m kind of in the middle of something….no! I didn’t mean it that way. OK see you at dinner..”) Sorry. Where were we?

So, back to the Week. No major upsets, no massive body counts, no complaints from the MADD (Mothers Against Deliberate Dementia), (who, btw you do not want to screw with!). Just a week of good clean, wholesome fun. Unless…

…you were the scott, caught off guard by a herd of well-dressed, middle-management credentialed rogers who, with a co-ordination and timing possible only to their type managed to trap the scott in the middle of the herd. Unable to spring back in time and in too close quarters to get the teeth to do any good, this scott was reported to have been ground down into a compliant, toothless Wiley Coyote-looking lifeform, reduced to muttering, (and we quote here), about how he was ‘gonna murdalize ya all’

…you were the clark, caught ‘showing emotion’ and immediately set upon by a small pack of young female scotts. Made hungry by a chance encounter with a herd of high school English teaching rogers, the pack thought they had stumbled on a Hungry Man Dinner sent down by jethro for their refreshment. Boy, when clarks get genuinely pissed-off and indulge in anger, it is not a pretty sight. (Party of 5 for the next Carnivoreville Cruise to the Island of Lesbos, please.)

Well, roger that about wraps it up for us. The final hours have ticked down and peace will reign once again in Shellyville. So I want to thank the Progenitor for stopping in, (hey, great Post ‘Various and Sundry Arcanities’, good read, as usual.) Anything you want to say to our readers before we pull the plug on this thing, roger?
Well, it was interesting. I’m maybe if you organised it a little clearer and maybe gave me a little more advanced notice. But I am learning that here in the blog world as it was back in the day of nightclub rock bands, all you could do was write the set list, do the set up, wait around and play Pac Man and go on stage when the house lights came down, ‘dit…dit…dit’

Well, its been interesting…

This is clark sayin goodnight!! Solveniaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!

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