Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers)
so, what else do you want to know? (This being Explanation Week, for today, I will accept any questions from Readers.) yes? you in the back there…no, go ahead, …yes, you can let your friend ask the questions.”
‘What is it about the simpatico between clarks and scotts? …why do rogers totally roll over for scotts? and, speaking of rogers, how is it that they can be best of friends with clarks and, then out of the clear blue, they will ‘lash out’ and be total jerks (only to tell us that we didn’t understand), especially when a scott arrives on the scene!
Sorry to take advantage of y’all but I gots to run, will come back and talk about the above pre-lanations…. here’s a hint: go back to our behavioral metaphor: outsider…predator (think friendly dog/incredibly dangerous but attractive omnivore and… member of the herd.
Then how about some reprint content? (I did say that Tuesday was the most non-threatening Day of the Week, didn’t I?)
WAIT! Hey!! one of our own is totally on a frickin TV News (“…now back to Krystal in the Weather Center“) Cyndi is right here… I think that’s her in the yellow scarf tres cool, non” (how proud are we? … v proud)
(from back in MMX!!*)
Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine ( three characteristic worldviews determine the 3 personality types: clarks, scotts and rogers )
Almost too easy. But we must be considerate of the New Reader! No telling how many people have arrived here at the Wakefield Doctrine this very Tuesday morning, driven by an insatiable curiosity, a little free-time at their computer at work/school or simply an annoying friend/co-worker (“...yeah, no! just go there! don’t try to read the About page, just read this Post! it’s about these people and these worldview things and…the thing of it is they are so right and I can’t stop seeing these scotts and clark and rogers…rogers!! do you have any idea how disturbing it is now whenever I drive past a bunch of guys riding bikes, wearing the kind of spandex that made Pat Benatar such a star… and just go there and let me know when you understand how any of this is going to be useful!“)
We all know that Tuesday is the day of the week that is most clarklike, right? The clue was right there in the Title, right? And by the associating of the word ‘mild’, you know have a spot-on assessment of the clarklike personality type, right?
Wrong.
Well, right about the ‘Tuesday is the most clark-friendly Day of the Week’, but t-wrong about the assessment of the clarklike personality type as being ‘mild’. Moderate?, fair… temperate?, sure, why not? even-tempered?, now you are straying… easy-to-get-along-with? getting colder… flat-affect, overly rational? ok…warmer… driven by a disconnected emotional aspect to find the way back home… yow! boiling !
Tuesday is the easiest-going Day of the Week. Rivalled only by Thursday on the lowered expectations scale, Tuesday is the day where you can believe in the promises of the work/school, even commit yourself to giving all to making the week a time of great accomplishment. Without the threat of an Exam (Friday) or even a pop quiz (Wednesday), Tuesday is the day where:
- clarks relax
- scotts wake up
- rogers begin to get annoyed
If you were looking through the eyes of a clark…on a Tuesday morning…and the newspaper headlines read: ‘Meteor to Strike Earth on Friday, Extinction of all Life Certain!’ your reaction would be:
- relief because the mess you made of your first serious relationship would finally stop bothering you (…hopefully)
- excitement because now you don’t have to worry about having enough money to pay the mortgage
- amused because you had a dream in which you felt loved and cherished by all and when you woke up you had a genuine emotional conviction that you were ‘a part of the family’
- a sense of vindication because you knew that nothing really mattered
- regret as you finally realized that people did not really care about how strange the inside of your head is, they only wanted to believe that you liked and appreciated them
Well, that was …interesting!If the rogers and the scotts would form an orderly line (yeah, right) we will register each and every one of your objections to this Post.
About clarkscottroger
Proxy FRIST for Lizzi (hey, we’re clarks… who said we can’t make up rules as we go along?)
re: frist: “Batter”! ( one of our family swear words from a young clark at an early age–no idea where he heard it, frankly),
So, am I to understand that hanging out with a clark is like sitting through Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind for the 50th time? Are you guys the ones who get “chosen” at the end?
How do you feel about the color red for a flightsuit?
So rogers and scotts have a strange affinity for each other? WHY?
THANKS. and yes I was up at 4 AM today. jehayn
very glad you asked!
rogers are to scotts as gazelles, antelope, zebrae and wildebeests are to lions (and tigers and…)
hahahah
loves me the early morning hours and such!
I like being awake before everyone. !!! as they are all nightbirds this is impossible, but I can dream!
never wear red here except the shoes, of course. red is so de trop.
“semper ubi sub ubi” !
or, now that I am older, possibly “numquam ubi sub ubi”
jeesh. I got nuthin’. Nice proxy slide though.
so I switched the blog to wordpress and for some reason yours is the only place I have to keep typing info in or it goes to the blogger site and you are on WordPress….huh?
huh!
I will go there to get the new link for the Doctrine blogroll…
zoe–you are on wordpress now??? do you have a new link?
if you go to the old one there is a post… or hit the link that reads zoebyrd above my last comment and it will get you there. Thanks jean.
thank you! xoxox
Actually, no questions here…for now. :)
Just kind of enjoying some R&R – and having a little fun.
Cyndi
Hey! so was that you in the opening scenes of the video?
cyndi , very cool on the green school …. I just realized when I read Denise’s comment that I probably missed something … turns out I thought it was only one link and only hit your name that brought me to the blog… I was wondering what Clark was on about… but now I get it!!! How very cool, I love the eighth grade boy in glasses… so excited!gotta love that! Congratulations! Z~
If I read that headline, I’d just hope that my son and husband and I all died at exactly the same time. The Roger lash-out made me go “huh” today. I think I had this happen to me, and, at the time, stupid me was all “why why why, sob sob sob?” but duh. Fuckin’ Roger.
it is (unfortunately) a part of the roger/clark experience (this lashing out… i.e. something mean, not necessarily appropriate, hardly ever recognized as a bad thing by the roger in question)
zoe asked me during the interview vid what I thought were the practical uses (of the Doctrine)… I said, ” when clarks get lashed out at by rogers (mostly in the workplace/school environment) we almost always have this first response of “maybe they’re right… I might be what they are saying”
the Wakefield Doctrine says, “no clark, it is not you! it is them!” we have heard from clarks who tell us, ‘hey! I remembered that what they were doing was lashing out and I did not have to beat myself up over it.’
if the Wakefield Doctrine does nothing else (but be a fun blog) than that, it is totally worth it
…lol have I been ranting?
no at least to me I now understand but Kristi: always happy here to have your back, and *** any one you need me to,. Peace and love, jean xox
spoken as a true scott! (damn, I love this Doctrine)
Dear Kristi, are you OK? xoxoxoxoxox jean jyatesnewyork@aol.com
“Hi my name is Joy, I’m Scotish and right now I like Monday the best. That is when I am most rested and least full of rageahol, being a bit of a rage-a-holic by the end of the week.”
” HI JOY!” No, I havent been to too many meetings why do you ask?
hahaha Joy and zoe!!!
No clark on the planet has not experienced the “lashing out”. rogers have a nose for those not of the herd:)
Doesn’t mean they do not befriend those not of the herd but, but…..inherent in the relationship is a disrespect. As much as clarks are liked by the roger, loved by the roger, it’s always there. An undercurrent of …passive aggressive…resentment?
a roger will tell a clark not to let them get away with shit.(I know ‘cuz I was told lol)
Why? Because a roger knows that clarks, not inclined towards confrontation, will not necessarily accede to an “attacking” roger but they won’t challenge them as a scott would either. Not typically. Actually, a scott would just kick their butt! clarks? In most cases we turn them off, refuse to feed their emotional fire. It drives rogers crazy and in the end simply serves to reinforce the “disrespect”.
Hey. Want to get into the Doctrine all deep and “don’t go there” like? Why are there more clark/roger relationships than clark/clark or clark/scott relationships? No. Not pretty:)
OK. I’ll come back to the party! I can do my self-developing on my own time, right?!
Hey!!! Big APPLAUSE for Friend of the Doctrine, a Downspring in her own right, Cyndi! So very, very cool about the school award. The grant you wrote obviously rocked in a major way!!!
Do you have a theory as to why? I have no clue being from a clark/clark situation. I dont even like myself when I get all roger-eee.
WHAT Denise said re: Cyndi! .
May I be of any help being a Scott with the roger thing or am I too removed from it? I find it fascinating. I want people to understand how to build each other up, and not to think they know better for whatever reasons. I have lived with those people who think they know better. Who think they know better than everyone else. I really had to deal with this my entire early life. May I help or anything? I remember being pushed around a LOT because of the place where I was raised, and the people who raised me and among whom I lived. As you all know, it didn’t hurt me, but I was judged constantly.
I am thinking:
If you LOVE yourself, it really helps you get through that nonsense, and not question whether or not the other person “has a point.”
Unless you are really mixed up, no one deserves to tell you how to live YOUR own life.
jean xox
You are now my bestest friend zoe:) Because you challenge me to find the words to describe the dynamic that exists between rogers and clarks. A dynamic that is not present in the clark/scott relationship.
Basically, it boils down to self respect. And the innate self-loathing clarks are inclined towards. Imo, a clark needs to start straight out of the womb with the goal of “self-development/self-evolution/self acceptance”! Let’s face it zoe. We clarks have some mega self-esteem issues! The weird thing is, we also don’t believe it. Not all the time.
Guess it’s a “duh” that the low self-esteem is traced to the feeling of being the “outsider”, being different from a way early age. I knew by first grade that I was “different”. Over the years it was a burden, a thing to be ashamed of, a cause for self concern. It later grew into a “badge of honor/independence”. Look at me! I’m an individual! A non-conformist! Only it was not non-conformity by choice. It simply was the way I was. It took years to understand and accept:) And yes! Like!
clarks and rogers. We get along famously. We often compliment each other in fabulous ways. clarks see in rogers the thing that we don’t have – acceptance into/member of the herd. Damn, I’m floundering here -waiting for Clark to swoop in and put into pretty word pictures the notion that too often clarks allow rogers to put them down. We permit ourselves to be whipping posts (back to the “we deserve this somehow”).
But there will come the day of enlightenment where the fear disippates and we clarks tell the rogers in our lives to f-off. We refuse to accept their antics. Only then can parity between the 2 be achieved. Denounce the self-loathing, refuse to be denigrated and life will be…..just fine:)
Here’s the deal. I understand the Doctrine. I “practice” the Doctrine. I have witnessed the effects of how understanding how others relate themselves to the world helps me to interact better with those people, rogers in particular. This Wakefield Doctrine? Cool shit.
Let me know zoe if any of that made sense to you. Really.
And you! Ms. jenA, our resident scottian princess – you are so right. Love your own damned self and you will fight for your own damned self. To hell with everybody else! I have yet to meet a scott who indulges in self-doubt. In fact, it’s a concept that doesn’t exist for you guys does it?
Dear Denise: I guess not, I am beginning to realize this … and I am so sad that I cannot help. darnit! xoxoxox jean
oooooo bestest! Is that anything like Frist?
I totally get and have lived what youre saying. This rings especially true: ” We clarks have some mega self-esteem issues! The weird thing is, we also don’t believe it. Not all the time.” as does the setting themselves up to be half ass validated by a clark’s reluctance to confront.
I guess what I dont understand is how so many can find certain behaviors of certain Rogers so repugnant ( eg people cannot STAND this roger at work because of such rogerian behavior it makes me insane most days to think about it!)… and yet this statement can be true… ” clarks see in rogers the thing that we don’t have – acceptance into/member of the herd.” Ah one of life’s bizarre little paradoxes I guess!
zoe
total FRISTation
“…I dont understand is how so many can find certain behaviors …Ah one of life’s bizarre little paradoxes I guess” I would submit, that is the gift of the Doctrine! Available to the small percentage of the population who can do the mental gymnastics to apply it, and limited in the practical applications (‘the Doctrine is for you, not them’) afforded by the insights, the fortuitous combination of links among behavior and perception is a way to see the paradoxes as simply how the world is…
ya know?
But you have prettyjean. You have:)
Funny about the Doctrine. It has a different use for different folk. For me it’s a useful, necessary and invaluable tool. It has provided the answers to some very vexing questions while at the same time posing some equally challenging ones. To/for/about me. ‘cuz in the end it is all about me (but not in that rogerian way LOL).
And it’s fun!