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Saturday TToT Number 15!!! …so fast! the Wakefield Doctrine (…thats like, what, 7 months of Posts?)

Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine (the theory of clarks, scotts and rogers)

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This is, incredibly enough, the 15th installment of the bloghop called Ten Things of Thankful and the fact that time has passed as rapidly as it has doesn’t help ease the unease at how rapidly time is going by and all.

Here is my List… it being Saturday I will try to stop by and read Posts as the day progresses, but not too often (work..work…work) this being a work day. I will, in any event, catch-up with everyone early this evening.  (Hey!  we have our regular Wakefield Doctrine Call in tonight!! 8-845 EDT)

1) I am grateful to have been asked to be a co-host of this blog hop   (before anyone goes into ‘awww‘  mode…allow me to continue),  because it has allowed me an opportunity to build upon something that does not require my own (personal) re-creation each and every week. Many people think, ‘hey good idea for a blog hop!’  then…a little while later, they’re all  ‘well, of course, there’s a lot of people participating! it was a good idea’    No.  The work-that-does-not-show, in this case of the soon-to-be-too-popular TToT is what the creator (and the co-hosts) put of themselves into it…nothing material,  but it is even more valuable and more essential to this blog’ growing and thriving… whether there is one Vistor or one hundred and thirteen visitors.

2) …I am grateful for Lizzi  (and all the co-hostini…) for contributing that ‘whatever of themselves’ that gives the life to this here bloghop here

3) And speaking of Hostini!  I am thankful that zoe  has accepted the position of co-host of the TToT!  While we hope that she reads up on Secret new host Rule #7  (and gets me those free Line items)  I have totally enjoyed her Posts  plus… she has a most excellent dog Skip

4) I am grateful for being comfortable enough with my list writing to say that I am totally not thankful for the change in weather… while I am resolving to not act surprised at how the temperatures are plummeting these mornings of late… and seeing how I  have lived in this part of the country nearly all of my life… I probably should knock off the ‘oh man! it’s getting cold again!! what the hell’ …like how can I claim that I did not see it coming?  (in my defense, I am one of those people who will feel warm again in…say  mid-June 2014)

5) I am partially thankful for no longer fishing (for a living). Having been out of the business for a very, very long time, I am still aware of how selective memory can be, remembering the good parts, not the bad parts. (Of Doctrine interest: even though rogers are of the worldview that places a very high value on traditions and continuity…it is (are) the clarks who retain the detailed  personal memory. So, while the weather offshore this time of year can be beautiful, the cold can take the fun out of it in a second.

6) I think that many of us list (the benefits) of technology very frequently on our TToT lists, in that I am no exception.  I will not miss the opportunity to signal my seeming helplessness to the world (it’s a clark thing…really, really aggravating…if you’re a clark. if you’re not a clark, then far be it from me to spoil the pleasure you might derive from our efforts to sneak in from Outsider-ville.)

7) I am thankful to Michelle and Considerer and Denise and Cyndi and Stephanie for their help on coming up with additional scenaria for the Assessment Test.   I would single out Christine… but I am afraid that she will turn her full attention on us,  hey!  scott!!  you know your suggestions are not just good, they are challenging, (in a good way), to me to make the most of them, right?  Christine is a (self-identified*) scott…and I should at this point do one of my semi-creepy  ‘I know this about you….” insight-things that makes the Wakefield Doctrine so very cool. (yes, I am aware of the transparency of my little gambit).

8) I am grateful for the Wakefield Doctrine Video Brunch… getting to hangout with people, in real time, on Sunday mornings.

9) …having work to do. often cited but not always easy to express… until, that is, someone who has not been as fortunate expresses gratitude for a (new) job and such.  this is, for me, the most direct benefit of participating in this here bloghop here.. to recognize

10) I was tempted to get all weird and clarklike here on the last item…but choose not to for one reason: a) Item 6 refers to the fact that we all maintain our worldviews, despite our efforts to change and develop beyond what our predominant worldview maintains. The Wakefield Doctrine will show itself to be an exceptional tool for self-development on the matter of this ‘persistence of habit’ issue…more later and 2) I want to reinforce, by invoking the new Rule (Rule #47) about Item 10 that I mentioned in a Comment last week to Hexagonal Patchwork …totally get to use the fact of finishing the List as a List Item

 

 

* secret Wakefield Doctrine rule… no one can tell you that you are a clark or a scott or a roger. they might choose to say that you are a clark or a scott or a roger, but in terms of ‘for real’  that is for you, not for them to say

 

 

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Well, what exactly do you want to know? Whether I am a clark or a scott or roger? If you have to ask, then you need to keep reading the Posts for two reasons: a)to get a clear enough understanding to be able to make the determination of which type I am and 2) to realize that by definition I am all three.* *which is true for you as well, all three...but mostly one

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  1. zoe says:

    Hey Clark , Thanks so much for the welcome! I just wanted to refer you back to my comments on “rewritten,” which site Secret Old Host Rule #53… It was in the manual! Who knew?

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      zoe

      lol drat! another legal mind!

      (hey speaking of the Wakefield Doctrine did you know that courtroom are like total terraria for the 3 personality types? the Judge…easy (mostly rogers) the clerk? (too easy ) the bailiffs (notice how they barely ever look at the Judge, always prowling and watching for threats…so very scottian). The attorneys are interesting (allowing for the ‘everyone does everything at one time or another’ proviso… really successful prosecutors tend to be rogers, defense attorneys scotts and clarks… well, there is the Public Defender lol)

      • zoe says:

        Public defenders and certain politicians (and better yet political analysts) make me wonder about the ability to fit everyone into the Doctrine… LOL…

        • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

          zoe

          the beauty of the Doctrine it’s key value is jus that…it does not try to fit people into the 3 worldviews* Rather the Doctrine proposes three worldviews as a perspective-context, through which one views the people and things and activities in their life. So it is that not all Public Defenders are clarks… after all, a Public Defender is a specialized aspect of the practice of law, how can you say that it is representative of one personality type. All three personality types can be seen as ‘practicing Public Defenders’ the value of the Doctrine lies in the incredibly widely ranging (personal) characteristics that are associated under the three worldviews. Further, the Doctrine is not about seeing if a person fits a category… the Doctrine simply says, using the three worldviews, it is possible to infer the personal reality of the other person. Put another way, as we mentioned last week, the goal (of the Doctrine) is to aid us in ‘seeing the world as the other person is experiencing it’. So the Wakefield Doctrine does not have a limit to how many people can fit into it’s categories simply because it is not meant to match traits with labels.

          *my error for tossing a fairly significant concept into a Comment Reply without defining it or providing sufficient context for the saying that ‘everyone does everything at one time or another’ This is an expression often used to remind us that there are no rogerian jobs and a scott is not the only person who might perform such and such activity or even that ‘clarks like reading’ rather it is too reinforce the fact that the full range of human experience is not to be categorized and divided into a best-fit…label. The underlying premise of the Doctrine is so to the contrary

          • zoe says:

            Wow… you really have a solid case of “clark disease…” LOL! I am denying my inner clark the chance to explain what I should have included in my previous comment! Its not easy… I feel a bit of stress in the solar plexus coming on! You know I’m just teasing… I actually LOVE the chance to understand the Doctrine better… I had heard of it but never really got it at all until I met you! Thanks!

  2. I really love the smooth way you manage to get in every detail of those you need to thak, without having to write reams about them – clever stuff! :)

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      katythenightowl

      thank you! hey… if your name is not too literal…we are having a Video Brunch tomorrow morning ..if you happen to have the time (9:00am EDT) and the google hangouts app installed on your computer stop by!

      • Hiya Clark :)

        Unfortunately my name IS literal, which is why I’ve not been joining you all at your video brunches, which I would have loved to have taken part in :(
        I suffer with ME, as well as a bunch of other stuff too boring to mention, and that means I sleep an awful lot – and am awake in the wee small hours – which is when I get most of my writing or crafting done!
        I hope you all have amazing chats – which, of course, you would do, considering the people taking part :)

        • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

          katythenightowl

          well, (depending your time zone) don’t give up hope on having one of our live events coincide with your hours. especially with my new camera… I might be doing the Saturday Night Drive as a video (instead of phone)… and as we get people from more spread out parts of the world, I fully expect to start to do these more and more… plus, if you have reached the point (that all of us do) where you know you have the principles down… but with a couple of questions answered…everything will fall into place.. as you say, given the people I am dealing with I have not once felt like it wasn’t one of the cooler things I’ve done.

  3. I’ll try to stop by for the brunch tomorrow, but can’t promise anything. Thanks for hosting, Clark!

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      Stephanie

      (seriously)…no pressure, this is fun first (and a bunch of other things later)…we will be there, so when you feel comfortable stop on by (there are enough pressures in the our lives, without adding any more to it)

  4. Fab (actual, for real) list :) BUT I’m with you on your rule-breaking whinge about the cold. I’m struggling with that at the moment and the weather’s barely changed yet! It’s gonna be a hard winter!

    ALSO very upset to be missing the WDVB again, but pleased because it’s for the wonderful reason of having guests here, and being busy shoe-shopping at my favourite shop :)

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      Lizzi

      rule breaking moi? lol well, kinda but there will be many more WDVBs… until everyone practices eating enough to risk the Video Lunch

  5. Clark, could have so written that about the weather and the now cooler temperatures. Seriously, I know it is going to get colder before it will get warmer again next year, but still so not a fan! And I am thank for you as always for co-hosting and just being you!! :)

  6. Jak says:

    Hey hey hey! Jak Albert here to save the day…

    Okay, not really, but for some reason that is what came to mind. I am possibly a bit concerned at seeing two actual lists two weekends in a row… did Lizzi threaten your knee caps? Sounds more like a Christine thing… I think Christine is Lizzi’s Enforcer. You break the rules or get out of line or abuse the blog hop’s Thankful crack supply she comes down on you like a hammer.

    Glad the blog hop is still churning out reasons for you to be thankful for it. It really should be damn near never-ending.

    I’m sorry to hear the weather shifts isn’t an optimal experience, but I think it’s soon to be reaching some of my favorite temps. I love Fall!

    Another co-host? Holy smokes you guys reproduce faster than a baby-makin’ Pig Wrangler! Congrats to Zoe, I believe I’ve visited them before, so will attempt to get on it more. I’m way behind on the co-host intros on Thursdays. Been spending more and more time off the interwebs.

    Brunch to me sounds like a 10-11am timeframe :-) Someday I will be up at the ass crack of dawn. Just not likely in the foreseeable future. Hope they are going great!

    Jak at The Cryton Chronicles & Dreams in the Shade of Ink

    • Jak says:

      Crap… forgot to mention I really like the Secret WD Rule!

      Uh…

      I really like it…

      That is all.

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      Jak

      (as I am sure you sense), I am staying with the faux-normal because there is a stretching of the fabric here (mostly Lizzi) in the same direction… this is not so much as ‘hey, they doing it now, I won’t do my thing’ as much as it is a (natural) timeline balancing effect. (sort of Biel and the other dude on that Star Trek episode).
      In any event, the true value in the Wakefield Doctrine is to allow us (those of us so inclined) to self-develop ourselfs… and what better way to practice than to (try) to write like a real person. Hey, hurry up with the learning of the Doctrine (like you don’t already have the principles down enough to recognize people out in your world…lol) The really daunting project (within the Doctrine) is creating the common language. We do that, then you totally will see some fireworks!
      I’ve said too much already!
      HTFU!

      (As to the Brunch? as I ‘said’ to Stephanie, life has enough unavoidable stress in it to add another…i.e. joining us on the Brunch. We be there, stop by when you get a chance. all.)

    • christine says:

      An enforcer? A baby making pig wrangler? You really do know me, Jak! You’ve been paying attention! And now that we have that all down about the enforcer thing, where’s your list, Jakky Poo? I have no doubt, from last week’s post, that you have some things for which to be thankful.

  7. Most welcome Clark, and thank you for a fascinating look, as always, into the human psyche!! Will be joining you on the brunch tonight!

  8. christine says:

    You were a fisherman?? Interesting bit of trivia I did not know.
    Sorry to be such a challenge. :) My husband feels the same way sometimes. (I have no idea if he would be a clark or a roger. A scott he is not.) Let me know if you want any more scenario from me. Perhaps it would help if I gave you the “what I did/would do” with the scenario?
    And while your “insight-things” are kind of creepy, they only prove how accurate this WD is. Keep those insights coming!

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      Christine

      …where’s my trillion dollars!!

      lol yeah… I will have to sneak in some offshore fishing stories… like on TV for the most part… i.e. mostly incredibly dangerous and boring physical labor with the occasional really scary events. sorta like life ya know?

      wait!! wait until you hear about the latest development in the technology of the Video Brunch… (nothing really new like, just an upgrading of the camera/phone so that next week people may very well be able to see the actual Wakefield (as I drive through it.. of course).

      stay tuned…will be back a little later to ‘make the rounds’

  9. Christine said the same thing I was going to say. Aw, hell, STILL going to say it. YOU WERE A FISHERMAN? Like in a rubber coat and boots and a boat that bobs up and down and Mike Rowe narrating?! Awesome!

    Congratulations on putting together a normal list! You seem to be making a habit of it.

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      Dyanne

      …oh yeah the whole offshore thing … work on a deck…sleep in your clothes and eat with both arms on the table. It was dragging (giant net towed behind boat as opposed to the crab fishing on the Deadliest Catch… which strikes me as an insane way to make a living.

      …I almost believe I have a little sense of doing a normal list. starting to feel that “yeah, great but suppose we try….”

      hey I have a new phone which seems to let me take decent videos for the Brunch… totally thinking that next week’s Video Brunch will be live from Wakefield its-own-damn-self

  10. WHOOT! The New-Style VB is gonna be *awesome*. Can’t wait :D And this time I should be there.

  11. Kristi says:

    While I’m sorry you are not thrilled with autumn, I loved your description of the surprise of the weather changing. That seems to be a universal tendency. Here in the desert, we seem to forget that it gets really hot every summer, and the winds blow constantly.

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      Kristi

      yeah… I totally am resolving to not complain too much lol but the cold is just so…. cold But at least we have others friends fellow bloggers who are in climates that remind us of the warmth of the Summer, even while we are huddled from the wind and snow.

  12. findingninee says:

    Crap. Wait. There are secret rules? And I, as a co-hostini, am supposed to be following them? Is that true? LIZZI – nobody told me about secret rules*
    Did I flunk?
    You were a fisherman? My biological sister’s husband is a fisherman/boat dude in Kodiak Alaska. Is that relevant?
    Yeah, I’m not ready for fall, either. Actually, I don’t mind fall this week, as it’s tolerable, but I mind it in a few weeks, when the freezing cold air rips through every layer that I wear and renders me miserable. Except last year it almost never got cold and I complained about that too.
    Perhaps I need to be more thankful. Maybe we should make a blog hop where we’re more thankful! Hehehe. I crack me up. It’s okay if that’s me, alone…

    *even if you would have, I’d have ignored them and claimed ignorance later

    (hello?)

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      Kristi

      I know it will come as no surprise… I have always loved that expression: “Hehehe. I crack me up. It’s okay if that’s me, alone…” (yeah.. way pre-blog years… too but then I suspect it’s a clark thing).

    • YEAH there are secret rules. Which I tell to friends. Who back me up in catfights about ice-cream.

      Whaddyamean I already…ocrap.

      Well this situation turned out just as funny as you thought you were :p

      (Oh yeah, I can be hilarious too…)

      • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

        Lizzi

        oh great… when I think I have gotten through all the Posts and I come back here and realize that I have to jump over to certain bloggers blog pages just to figure it out!

  13. Hi, thanks for stopping by today, (Sunday). I appreciate the support and am encouraging you to thinkg about getting in shape. You may want to read my Monday post which is already up which I hope will further encourage you.
    http://mary-anderingcreatively.blogspot.com/2013/09/blogtember-public-love-letter.html

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      Mary

      thank you for that… it’s the reminders that help, at least until the habit gets established, it’s just that there are so many ‘important things’ that make me think.. ‘ok today I’ll work first then exercise… or ….’ lol

  14. zoe says:

    I too am enthralled that you were a fisherman….but not knowing you very well I didn’t know how enthralled I should be. I had an opportunity to go to Alaska on my uncle’s salmon fishing boat for a year and was about to go when he went into kidney failure and had to sell the business. Everyone tells me I dodged a huge bullet with that one! BTW I think Ya’ll are effing hilarious!

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      zoe

      (if this helps)… there is a saying about commercial fishing, ‘it’s just like being in prison, except you can drown’. lol I’m not certain where the need to do this came from…always interesting to look back at thing like that.. the more unusual jobs and professions…did only a few years, glad though that I did.

      hey Kristi I think you left your bag of expletives in my back seat the other day! lol

  15. Joell says:

    I always find your lists intriguing, though a little confusing, probably due to the fact that I have not thoroughly studied the whole clark/roger/scott thing. So I am thinking that I should do that. It would probably help me make sense of things. Haha! I agree with you about the TToT hop! I have enjoyed it so much since I began participating. Not only the exercise of thinking about and assembling my ten things, but also the joy of reading everyone else’s posts! Such a terrific group of people!

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      Joell
      I totally agree! (about the nature of the group at the TToT, not the Doctrine) (well, maybe the Doctrine too!) (lol)
      I participate in 3 ‘hops on a steady basis, Jen and Kristi’s TMT Tuesday and Finish the Sentence Friday and, of course, the TToT. The latter has a very unique (and enjoyable) ‘tone’… a conversation and lot of back and forth along with the Posts themselves. As I’m sure you’ve noticed, there is a lot of cross-commenting (into Comment threads) which I think is a big part the sense of real people hanging out, albeit virtually and all.

      the Doctrine is one of those things works best in the beginning to read once, assume you understand it and ‘try it out’… It is way different than most personality type theories… in that it’s about using the description of the three worldviews to see the world as the other person experiences it. It can be fun and useful…

      • Joell says:

        Your assessment of the the TToT hop is part of why I am enjoying it so much! Of course, I love how it keeps thankfulness at the forefront of my thoughts throughout the week. I consider myself a thankful person, but this is more intentional and I like that.

        As for the the Doctrine…I’ll give it a look-see! ;-)

    • Jak says:

      Awwww you can always spot the Fresh Fish when they think reading anything will help in the understanding of what synapses spark and bring forth the thoughts from Clark’s mind, bypassing his lips (unless it’s Thursday and/or Video Brunch and/or he is feeling adventurous), and surging through his fingertips.

      It’s soooooo cute! ;-)

      <3

  16. Oh my goodness, those were a lot of comments to scroll down to comment! clearly I am doing something wrong on my blogs these days, lol! On the bright side, comfy blankets, hot chocolate and a warm fire is just not the same in summer, so I’m envious of you for that. But can’t say I’m too unhappy about being able to go hiking and going to the beach soon, lol!

    • clarkscottroger clarkscottroger says:

      Melanie

      credit must go to Lizzi and her (band of co-hostini) for putting on a very cool bloghop!

      speaking of very cool… the Sunday Video Brunch? it might be stepping up to the next damn level! next Sunday (9am EDT) I am going to try a ‘live remote’ from the actual Wakefield. (My new camera seems to have some wonderful video capability so I will be in my car driving around for at least the first half of the Brunch…would love it if you can make it.