Welcome to the Wakefield Doctrine.
Gather a group of 50 couples (100 people) together in a room. Tell them that you will grant them one wish, but that wish must be to improve some aspect of their relationship. 80 percent* of these 100 people will immediately think of or look at the other person. Why is that? And who is the 20%? (who did not immediately look to the other person). What difference does that make? if 80% of the people responded in a certain way, doesn’t that make them the normal ones? Why is this list of questions continuing? Hey, is this another trick question?!
Two things to take away from this Post today.
- Most people (which means rogers and scotts) don’t feel they should change their personality
- The Wakefield Doctrine is a very useful tool for understanding another person and it is very useful in changing behavior
- The Wakefield Doctrine is for you, it is not for them
Which is the one most likely to not look to the other person (if they were in our group of 50 couples)
* There is a reason for the estimate of 80%. This percentage is derived from the (likely) number of rogers and scotts in the general population. (60% rogers, 20% scotts and 20% clarks)
About clarkscottroger
I don’t really know these people or much about them, but from the list, I would guess that Ashton Kutcher is the clark.
My initial guess is based on what little I know of Demi Moore. After looking at pictures of him, I find a reassurance in this guess.
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agree on the Demi Moore who is a total scottian female
the idea is that (in the case of this couple) when the Question is pose, you know Demi will glance at Ashton…
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(a hint) the following people from the list above will not immediately look at their partner:
Katie
Ellen
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When I made my first comment, I was also thinking of Bruce Willis, Demi’s ex… I was thinking he was a roger, but after looking at some pictures, I am thinking not…
Don’t know what he is, except my favorite actor. :)
Sorry, drawing this thing off topic.
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Molly,
…your instincts are correct! Bruce is very a roger.
..now being a clark, the next thing out of my keyboard is, “Well, why is it that you say Mr. Willis, he be a roger?”
(…glad you asked!)
The thing about the Wakefield Doctrine (and) the key to identifying the personality type (the predominant one, the other two are still there) is to observe the person (Bruce) and on the basis of how they act, what they say, the way they say it, etc you try to infer the worldview that Mr. Willis is responding to… (more to follow)
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Hello all sorry to be so damn tardy and awol and not on the bloody phone on Saturday Nights. Notice the marquee way I described “Saturday Nights” I got a fever. Now that goes two ways – Saturday Night Fever or “I got a fever, and the only cure is more cowbell.” — Bruce Dickenson, on SNL skit. Which ties into my next comment – my new band, PLAYBACK, had our first showcase last Sunday night in Dallas and it was SWEET! Just absolutely had them dancing on the ceiling, but Lionel Ritchie wasn’t there, but his brother was, or at least it LOOKED like his brother. Move on if this is boring: We go into the studio this Saturday to record full and 30 sec clips for our NEW (dah dah sounds of orchestral trumpets) or Mexican Mariachi horns, to go on our under construction website.
So, also working with an old, good friend who is back in Dallas after living all over the US, buying car dealerships, now he is ready to start a Production/Mgmt/Talent locator and talent upgrading to demo-video and send to mid to major labels for consideration. We polish them IF they have IT. We will have it all, studio, video crew, engineers, make up, hair stylist, all gear provided, including a 3rd floor/level party deck, covered and fully loaded with bar and all music and private party areas for bands/artists and where we will discuss contracts that will be shared royalty with established labels with established distribution networks. We have thought this thru with deep consideration. This will be different an a way for Johnny Unknown to get past all the junk and straight to a LABEL! Then the label takes it from there and we get our % of contractual agreement(s). KING CRAB PRODUCTIONS, LLC. Now where were we: oh, yes, the couples.
First thing that comes to my mind is Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon. I feel ol’ Susan is a Scott/Roger, but TIMMY is a Clark. She is an open minded-hardcore liberal and he goes along with her on everything. She is the epitome of my cousin in Virginia, near DC. Can only see one side of the three sided coin. She can’t even entertain YOUR opinion AT ALL!!??!! That, to me, is showing your tunnel vision and there is no working with someone like this. Susan S. reminds of a dominant female that would piss me off in about 2 seconds. Given that it is very probable that I would win an argument with her, she would end it with the “whatever” retort.
The ol’ TIMMY would be her back-up bodyguard. I could take him down. But, the trouble is, I like him and his acting and I like hers, as well. It’s what they do OUTSIDE of movie making.
Never cared for deMI. Liked Bruce a lot. Ashton is just a piece of the time machine that turns back time for deMI and removes the wrinkles in her long neck, which, in younger days, was nice. Now, she is facing that time ALL women face, getting that older woman trying to be younger look. To me, IMHO, that = desperation. OH MY GOD, I”M GETTING OLD LOOKING, my butt and boobs are sagging! Look, they are going to ANYWAY>! He is a YOUNG STUD, they make him one on the 2 1/2 Men show, but he lacks the SHEEN of Charlie. Admit it – Charlie Sheen, when it comes to that show, is WINNING! He was MUCH better, even Greta plays off him SO much better. See the problem is this, I have it nailed = the character WAS/IS Sheen. He doesn’t HAVE to act. It’s him! So, it’s more real, Ashton looks like a long lost cousin who is visiting. Sheen is the dominator, with all his wives, girlfriends, I believe a true ROGER.
Right, Willis IS a Roger. Charlie is a Roger. Mr Rogers is a Clark. Clark Kent is a Clark, even as SuperAss. Now Perry? He’s got that Scott/Roger thing working. Lois is, well, I’m not sure. Can you imagine her even having sex with that willy-nilly Jimmy? Not a chance. He’s most likely gay. Which is fine. But Lois needs a good ROGERING from Clark. Especially, when he is Superman, I’ve heard he gets hard as a rock – even BULLETS bounce of him – unless of course, they are put, well, I won’t go there. Perry just drinks scotch out of the drawer and looks a Club Mags, might be an old Queen. Gotham City is full of Clarks, no one can fight for themselves. Reminds me of San Fran. Even Jerry Rice, who I met on a flight from Houston to San Fran (I went up to First Class and spoke with him) THEN a kid was getting autographs and saw some our band equipment, and we explained we were performing, in a rock band. He wanted OUR autographs, his mom said he collects them – And what a smart boy! I don’t sign just ANY autograph, you know. It’s Un-Rogerian. I said ” Hey kid, you see that guy over there, waiting for his stuff at luggage? That is Jerry Rice, the SF All-Everything NFL Pro wide receiver, you should go get his autograph.” Rice saw us, might have heard us, saw us sign his book, then the kid went over and got Rice’s autograph. It was a good moment. I then, got my luggage and hit the bar for a couple of drinks. I saw Mickey Rourke and thought about how I would look chasing him (he was going the other way) so, I didn’t. blah blah blah. Good movie he was in about the Wrestler – made me almost cry. Rogers don’t cry, they “ALMOST” cry. You will find if they know the tears are coming, they will make a comment during the movie to get away from the “SKIP DIED” dagger. Old Yeller. Shit. Terms of Endearment. About Schmidt. I digress big time.
Another couple Michael Douglas and Zeta-Jones. Catherine Zeta-Jones Douglas. Sounds like a law firm. Zeta-Jones-Douglas, LLC. He is dominant, but she trumps him and I would bet they FIGHT like cats and dogs. His ego is gigantic and so is hers. But, she got kinda bumpy-hippy=fat looking and he is overusing the Rogaine, hair dye, and plastic face manure so much, I can’t even tell it’s him (worse than Rourke). Cowboys owner Jerry Jones looks like the JOKER. Man he got STRETCHED! My daughter worked for him, well, the Cowboys (cheerleader for one year) 2004 and he was a nice guy, hardly ever around she said. Michael Douglas thinks he runs things, but ol’ Zeta-Jones does. So, could they BOTH be ROGERS? I think so, as I’m learning about the Doctrine. Vince Gill and Amy Grant, both Clarks.
I will leave you with once last comment – I am very sorry I haven’t been AROUND more – things have settled down a bit and I bought some stuff at Condom Sense, some things I’ve never seen, have no idea what or where they go? But the young, cute, girl working there said it would add some “spice” to the marriage. Well, the Strawberry lube was just OK, but these look like Martian machines-probes they would use on these guys on TV who were abducted by aliens. Sorry, back on topic.
I tend to think couples are mostly opposites (opposites attract) , it is with me. We are completely opposite, she is a Clark, me a ROGER. I like my cap, I wear it all the time. Dominance feels good, but you can still be human and caring. However, when things get ‘testy’, The ROGER will rear it’s ugly? head. So, I’m watching and I AM around, just very busy and contemplative about new projects. I am also understanding, there are Clarks, Scotts and Rogers. It takes time to figure them out/label them. sine cera,
Steve – Roger
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Steve
Hey…np (we) love the name…hope that SNL doesn’t mind the variation, besides there is no reason to get a visual of Robert Hays and Julie Hagerty in the dance scene in the bar in Drambui…lol. We are all cheering you guys on…need more information on the other members of Paybo…Playsta….PLAYBACK! Will be doing Wakefield Doctrine tee shirts for this Spring Summer’s Fashion Collection, expect to see them prominently displayed on your first album cover*
Nearly completely good call on Saradon/Robbins…he is a clark and Susan is one of the leading scottian actress-ettes
As was said in an earlier Comment to this Post, it is the ‘why we know they are (which of the three types)…’ that is the useful thing to these examples. With Ms. Saradon is totally in the eyes, that predatory gaze that alertness to any movement (or the any sign of weakness)
Ashton/Demi…Molly beat you to that one, lol! Your Comment does stumble upon another primary physical characteristic of the scottian female-type… the prominent throat tendons… observable sometimes even before the scottian gaze… at all ages, too I will leave it to everyone’s collective imagination why this should be so
The most common pairing (at least among couples that are ‘famous’**) seems to be scott/roger…in nature though there is a more balanced mix
The at home environment you mention can be of use to us here at the Doctrine… observations in a ‘controlled environment’, shall we say. As a roger, you stand to gain a tool to enable yourself to know much more about the other people in your world… you will be able to see the scott coming (even as he/she…stalks you through the high grass or tracks you from their perch in the nearby Jackalberry trees)….and you will be able to notice the clarks… standing to the left…walking behind you** … and if that is not enough*** you will even have a better appreciation of your fellow herd members, after all just ’cause they are rogers can’t mean they are all alike….can it? (Hey, Progenitor roger! a little help here, yo do you people think that your fellow herd members are all alike?)
Good to hear from you…
Hey! I got an idea!… you can be the ‘scout’…you remember back when we were kids and played Cowboys and Autochthons… somebody always gets to play scout… now I get out there only twice a year… so take pictures, take notes…bring us examples…
Quick Doctrine Tip: (as a roger) Lets say, you are holding forth before a group…
the clark is the one smiling before you actually get to the punchline in your joke…. and
the scott is the one who is laughing the loudest.
“…you’ve been told”
* damn, is there still such a thing as ‘album covers’?
** like the old game/puzzle in Sunday newspaper supplements…’Find the Indian’…where the drawing totally disguises the figure until the gestalt exerts itself and there! all along there it is!
*** enough + roger? lol sorry, forgot myself for a minute lol
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No. MF. Don’t you say no ‘you’ to me. As you have known for years, there are herds of all shapes and sizes. They are all quite aware of their various differences/ nuances.
Quick Doctrine Tip: ( as a roger ) Always make sure to wear an acceptable cologne, aftershave or fragrance. Scent is everything. Bathe regularly. And Mom’s Underwear Laws are always in effect. Always. Not just on Friday night. So go buy a couple of packages of Hanes, for God’s sake.
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( “…we saw your name up there on the screen.” )
‘there are herds of all shapes and sizes. They are all quite aware of their various differences/ nuances.‘
but do you see (your fellow rogers) in terms of their individual herd? or are they of the herd ‘prima loci‘* or what?
We others see you as rogers…that the ones with the black on white colorings are different from the (rogers) with the white on black colorings is a distinction that most of us can’t make.
* prima loci** to identify with the group that is physically present…the rogers in the room, in other words
** a made-up Latin sounding word, at least I hope it is made-up…if it is a real latin word and the cat just threw it up on the teleprompter, then I will be very scared…lol***
*** no, I have not looked it up
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So rogers are the ones with the artificial smell! Thanks for that heads-up.
Hmmm…. Maybe that is why I never dated a roger. I think a man should smell clean and natural. If there is a scent on him, it should be one of work or play — wood smoke, horse sweat, motor oil, saw dust — something that is easily removed with soap and water.
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From Arthur’s Oxford Primer ( paperback ); ‘prima loci’ – from an ancient Egyptian hieroglyph, circa Ramses II. current usage def; a confused mental state brought on by overexposure to CRT – based monitors, cell phones, and/or Apple products. Ex; ” iRant” Orig. def; ‘ bat-shit crazy’
In response to your inquiry; yes, we recognize individuality, group hierarchy, and allegiance to larger regional and divisional concerns. Old Spice or English Leather, basically, in case someone grazes into someone else’s territory. The outer markings are meant as camoflage. And are apparently working as planned ( just so ‘you people’ don’t know exactly what you’ve got in front of you )
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(“…from the APA and from the ‘National Association for the Advancement of Alternate Personality Theory ( NAPPTY) ??!!! they ‘just stopped by’?” ) shit!
Hey! Mister!! (sorry) hey Ms! Come back… we always have totally succinct and on-focus discussions!! Really!!
Well, yes, while I might concede that the role of pheromones in personality types might be a bit exotic… an we will stand by Molly’s reference to the theraputic powers of burnt wood and while most people have not heard of Arhtur’s Oxford Dictionary, I assure you that it is an impeccable source….and we do strive to encourage our Readers to submit..er…comprehensive Comments, the better to shed an unsuspected light on a topic. Yes, I am sure that you don’t often encounter that use of the language in mainstream personality theory…
Hey…you want to be like that…no, these people have totally valid insight… he called you what? a ‘Harvard Dean’? no there is nothing in the slightest perjorative about that term! Well…no I don’t think we will be requesting a qualitfication audit for your organization… yeah? well that very rogerian of you… no nothing….
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They said they be higher up over us. So I sprayed him in the eyes with my pocket-size Aspen by Cote Ionizer Mist.
One should always smell one’s best when assaulting NAPPTY officials.
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